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Old 05-12-2003   #1
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Just looking for the holes...

I know I have great gear for my level, as I should I've been playing since kunark first came out. Here's the thing, I play once/twice a week due to RL commitments but I do have time to leave my character in trader mode and sell stuff all day long. Plus I can make FH armor which means my cash supply is high. I'm pretty sure I've got all my bases covered, and now I'm just trying to grind and get levels. Other than a cloak of flames and another bloodmetal earring I don't see any equipment that I might need. I'm holding off on a windblade as at my level it's not all that great. By the time I'll need one the price will probably have dropped some.

Well, anyone see any tradable or one group items that I'm lacking?

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Old 05-12-2003   #2
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How about a FH collar instead of the clattering bone necklace?

Also, how about a cowl of mortality - same haste percent but better stats.

Boots of the Storm?

The 1-handers aren't that great - plenty better tradable weapons out there.
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jesus nice setup
yeah, i'd look into a FH neckpiece for ya and see about some new haste; either a CoF or something with some non-mana on it.

hell; nothing to complain about there though 'nomer
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If you got a CoM head-slot haste item, you could then get a nice lodi shield for your back slot.
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hmm i'm thinking maelstrom cloak or heiro over a Lodi..prob Heiro
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Yeh you're prolly right, as it seems money is no object for this dude.
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can say tho that learning a tradeskill is worthwhile in EQ
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Old 05-12-2003   #8
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Wow, 5 replies in 45 minutes...wow.

Sure, money is flowing well for my level but there is a limit. I've got about 150k left to spend on upgrades. I'd like to stay away from the cowl of mortality as the AC seems a little low for the price. For some reason some people feel that 9 stam is worth 40k? Not to me, at least not at level 52. There are a lot of no drop haste items I'm sure I'll get in the future.

Here's what I think I'm going to do.

sell CoCW 40k
Buy CoF ~60k
Buy Bloodmetal earring ~35k
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Leaving about 95k.

Being a 'nomer I've got to look to keep my strength up since my starting strength is so low. Sure it doesn't really add that much to dps but I'd like to be able to get to 255 str with just HoS. I'm wondering if the draconic pauldrons might be a good alternative to FH.

As for my one handed weapons. I could get a fleshgrinder or frostbringer (if you have other suggestions for tradable 1 handed weapons let me know) but I HOPE to be getting my epic within a few months (after I hit 55) and then I'll only need another 1 hander, any suggestions?

Also the new yak's are decent aggro same damage/delay as a FB, but it's kind of nice to have weapons that are rather rare. There's only one troll smith on Rodcet Nife as far as I know.
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come to look at that RZ gear+yaks; i think down the road if i progress into that ( RZ follower myself ) the lack of inborn strength is going to hurt me ( wood elf ) as well...if you're going for the epics i'd get them than just get up to level 60+ and get some nice no-drop goodies to fill the weapon roles and maybe a new BP ( vindi seems perfect for that or even statue when the time comes ).

best part about the rZ gear is when/if it bcomes a focus of your upgrades; you can most likely make a nice profit off it rather than taking up spaces in the bank.
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Funny thing is, I was using the exact same weapons as you until a few days ago (lammy+centi ss). I got the yaks for an extra pair of FH legs I had, so it was a pretty good deal, I didn't have to spend any cash and I was getting rid of surplus armor. Plus it's cool to be weilding yaks again, it's almost like the new "old school". Weapons and armor are so plentiful now, and everyone seems to be shouting "frostbringer!" Sometime down the road I'll be either buying or in a good guild and able to get either SoD, BoC, or CHSD to go along with my epic, and eventually replace the epic probably but those are expensive weapons and I'm defintely not high enough to be MT and be first in line for them.

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Well, if 9 stam ain't worth 40k, you should look into getting a solstice earring instead of another bloodmetal.

If you can get nodrop haste soon, good for you, but I don't see it in my future so I'm wearing a CoM and cloak of pernicity.

You're pretty much at the point where tradable upgrades get pretty hard to find and expensive. Here's a list of things I can think of offhand.

FH collar
Bloodmetal earring
Heavy rubicite belt
Bone carved shortbow
Crystallized acid pauldrons, wrist
Amygdalan mask
Tormax boots, gauntlets


I haven't gotten things better than everything on the list, and I think I can still make a bunch of money if I tried, but I'm pretty content where I am now. Watched prices and got a bladed staff and greatstaff of thunder on sale. Perhaps if I had 150k, I would try to save up for a SoD, but everytime I hit 50k or so (slowly), I've been crossing one more thing off.
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I'd like to stay away from the cowl of mortality as the AC seems a little low for the price
uhh

Cowl has more AC, and more HP than the Cloak of Flames, for (if you're spending that much anyway) a marginal amount more.

I'm not seeing your logic. If cowl is not worth the price for 9 sta, 50hp and 16ac, why is Cloak of flames worth it at 10ac 9 agi and 50hp?

Cowl is as good as tradable gets, bar none.
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Cowl = -10 AC +5 Sta (25ish hps) +15 raw hps over current helm

CoF = +50 raw hitpoints over current cloak.

So just getting one or the other, the CoF is a better upgrade. Now, if he were to get a cloak of the maelstrom AND the cowl, it would be a net gain of 15 Sta (roughly 75 hps) and 70 raw hitpoints for -9 AC.

So, Cowl + Maelstrom = -9 AC +145ish hps
CoF = +50 hps

Basically it's 95 hps vs 9 ac. Pretty much an even tradeoff if you believe the 10 hps = 1 ac theory. Cowl and Maelstrom will be a lot more expensive. Also, I'd bet it's easier to find a high ac/hp helm than cloak.

Cowl of Mortality was uber back in the days of the AC soft cap. If you value AC though, it's still a good item, but it is very low ac for the helm slot on a warrior.
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Old 05-13-2003   #14
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I meant that the cowl has low AC for the head slot. Since I've yet to break 1200 ac, AC>HP. It's not worth spending that kind of money for something that may or may not be considered an upgrade using the 1ac=10hp rule. The COM+Hiero cloak of something to think about, plus I'd love to get my hands on a cloak of pernacity.

Having a priority of

1. AC
2. Raw HP
3. Stam
4. Str
5. Dex

I like to try and including #4 and #5 as much as possible in my upgrades when some people don't even look at them. For example.

Upgrading

Fingerbone Hoop
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: EARS
AC: 2 WT: 0.1
STR+5 STA+5 CHA-10 INT+5 SV POISON-8 SV DISEASE-8 SV COLD+5 SV FIRE+5 SV MAGIC+5

To a

Bloodmetal Earring of Engagement
( 0.3 WT, 7 AC, +40 MANA, +70 HP, +12 STR, +6 DEX, +8 STA, +15 SV MAGIC)

Is an upgrade of

5raw ac, 3 stamina, 7 str, 6 dex, and 70 raw hp.
Is this worth a 30k upgrade? (35k-current earring approx)

I'd say it was, however comparing:

Helm of Raldukan
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: HEAD
AC: 26 WT: 2.5
STR+4 STA+4 HP+35 SV DISEASE+7 SV COLD+7
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL

To

Classes: All Classes
Races: All Races
Stats: 16 AC +50 HP +12 AGI +9 STA +15 SV DISEASE
Special Attributes: MAGIC, LORE

-10raw ac, 15raw hp, 5 stamina, 12agi, -4 str.

This would be (for this slot anyway) an 80-90k upgrade and IMO just isn't worth the money, there are other items that are.

I know I asked for advice and I thank those who took the time out to suggest a few good items that I didn't think of. Does anyone have approx. PC's on this stuff?

Heavy rubicite belt
Bone carved shortbow
Crystallized acid pauldrons, wrist
Amygdalan mask
Boots of the storm


Are ones that I will look into, of course they are seldom sold. Of course I'm leveling still and I'll probably wait as long as i can to get some of it as prices will continue to drop on some items.
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most people don't worry abotu str and/or dex because a lot of people have either the quested velious armours which carries a lot of str/dex ( dex especially on myrmi ) OR are of a larger race where their inborn str number is about where you're sitting now if not more.

You've got the right path of thinking Mightie though; I doubt when the time comes you'll make a bad decision. I used to play around a lot with Magelo trying out different items and more often than not could come to a reasonable conclusion.
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