Tallon Zek

gulug · 12-04-2003

Im curious how are you guys getting TZ in time down without deaths?

Weve been running through at least 3-4 MTs because DI cant save em all the time once defensive drops. I think we have about 8 clerics in the rot on him and a few more on the rampage.

Wigg0 · 12-05-2003

We kill him without any casualties, maybe some shitwiz now and again for overaggroing and turning him so a few more dies

Grimmlokk · 12-05-2003

He's talking about Tallon in PoTime. Not PoTactics.

Demorgoth · 12-05-2003

Simple really - we've been there longer than you. That means our tanks have more hp (eg: I'm over 11.5k) so stop being single rounded. Then it's just a case of throwing enough healing around that the MT doesn't drop. Corner him and attack from max range and don't draw agro off the MT at any time.

Sure, the first times may well be messy, but the longer you're there, and the mob you get equipped, the easier it becomes.

goobayouface · 12-05-2003

overagro is still an issue in time, just like it was in tactics heh

Agris · 12-05-2003

gooba would know

Surlok · 12-05-2003

We do Tallon without any deaths as well,and we don't tank change.

If the MT dies its usualyl right near the begining because rot isn't working we simply resest and go again,none of our tanks are beyond 10.4k I don't think as we are jsut new in time.

Tudana · 12-05-2003

Surlok you have 21 clerics too :P

gulug · 12-05-2003

guess ur right our current main tank is about just over 10k 2000 ac. maybe need to throw a bit more healing at it i guess. was annoying as hell though had a messy one with him lastn ight, got him down to 0 pct but then dps dropped off cos most of us were dead annd he regenned back.

Zotha · 12-05-2003

We havent had a MT die on Tallon at all since we killed him first off unless it was in the first few seconds to the rotation having a hiccup. We also pretty much have 0-5 casualties. His damage is actually pretty weak, if youre not taking any spell damage.

Coray · 12-06-2003

10k is enough to tank him just fine. I have just over 10k and have tanked him a few times start to finish. Sometimes my DI does get skipped over which is extremely annoying, but for the most part the hits that kill me, would just as likely have killed me with 10.5 or 11k hp.

Also, we have around 60 people, and use 7 clerics in the cycle although we tend to have around 8-10 total on raids.

Surlok · 12-06-2003

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Surlok you have 21 clerics too

No,we have 21 clerics on our roster,The most we have ever had in time at any point is 13.

It's a touchy fight,if aggro stays on the Main tank then it all comes down to healing,8 clerics is what we use as a chain on him and as long as the rot is solid keeping one tank on him should work.We have a harder time keeping the RT up then the MT up for some reason...

aspit · 12-06-2003

over aggro is not an issue on time tz..assuming you tank him properly. First of all 3 of his aes are 30 range the 4th if 50 range, so the only one that will land at max melee ect. When i tank im i make sure i have full buffs ect all 15 slots and trash up front. so jboots acumen cotr aura of green petals legacy of bracken vot divine intervention protection of seasons, tribunal, pot9, symbol, ward, brells ,focus, haste. The one ae you need to worry about as mt is tallons balance. Its neg 300 all resists and will most likely allow his other shit to land, slow aggro debuff ect. So what i do is group with a bard and have him mem high level dispell song. With full buffs his aes eat your top buffs, and bard dispell is top 2 slots only. It will occasionally skip a buff but very rarely. So I work with a bard to dispell that shit the whole fight and fill in the blankks with clickies. You can also work with a rune rotation or vie ect depending on how sloppy your dispelling gets. If they are top two slots youre fine, as long as they arnt eating something importatnt. I dont place them lower because they longest they last is 3 seconds and then you have a threat of his slow or debuff dropping lower in your buff order and you are fucked until it fades. Anyway doing this i have no problem aggroing and we normally have him to 25%ish before disc drops, then just fill in the blanks with druids and shaman.

edit: dispelling his resist debuff will also save spike dps as he has a 3k ae dd and a 3k single target dd.

**Raaj** · 12-06-2003

We dont dispell or cure anything and very rarely lose anyone.

Usually an 8-9 cleric rotation, and a 5-6 minute fight. Very straightforeward.

Phantron · 12-06-2003

It's not necessary to dispel but getting rid of Tallon's Balance makes the spikes a lot easier to deal with. Also prevents his deaggro/slows from landing which helps quite a bit with aggro.

12-04-2003	#1
gulug Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Age: 40 Posts: 570 Rep Power: 21	Tallon Zek Im curious how are you guys getting TZ in time down without deaths? Weve been running through at least 3-4 MTs because DI cant save em all the time once defensive drops. I think we have about 8 clerics in the rot on him and a few more on the rampage. __________________ Gulug Divine Winds An Alliance guild of The Saryn Raiders Saryrn

12-05-2003	#3
Grimmlokk Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Right near da beach Posts: 1,527 Rep Power: 22	He's talking about Tallon in PoTime. Not PoTactics. __________________ Grimmlokk - 60 Rogue, Kilrogg. <Last Rites> My lucky number is four billion. That doesn't come in real handy when you're gambling. "Come on, four billion! F**k. Seven. I need more dice."

12-05-2003	#6
Agris Veteran User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	yup gooba would know __________________ Agris - Overlord Realm of Insanity

12-05-2003	#7
Surlok Surly Barbarian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Halas Posts: 357 Rep Power: 21	We do Tallon without any deaths as well,and we don't tank change. If the MT dies its usualyl right near the begining because rot isn't working we simply resest and go again,none of our tanks are beyond 10.4k I don't think as we are jsut new in time. __________________ -1 Battered and bloody, Suit of armor Warrior Spirit not included

12-05-2003	#8
Tudana Veteran User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lakeland Fla. Posts: 122 Rep Power: 21	Surlok you have 21 clerics too :P __________________

12-05-2003	#2
Wigg0 Veteran User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	We kill him without any casualties, maybe some shitwiz now and again for overaggroing and turning him so a few more dies

12-05-2003	#4
Demorgoth /cons RED Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 300 Rep Power: 21	Simple really - we've been there longer than you. That means our tanks have more hp (eg: I'm over 11.5k) so stop being single rounded. Then it's just a case of throwing enough healing around that the MT doesn't drop. Corner him and attack from max range and don't draw agro off the MT at any time. Sure, the first times may well be messy, but the longer you're there, and the mob you get equipped, the easier it becomes.

12-05-2003	#5
goobayouface Veteran User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104 Rep Power: 20	overagro is still an issue in time, just like it was in tactics heh

12-05-2003	#10
Zotha Veteran User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Aussie Posts: 191 Rep Power: 21	We havent had a MT die on Tallon at all since we killed him first off unless it was in the first few seconds to the rotation having a hiccup. We also pretty much have 0-5 casualties. His damage is actually pretty weak, if youre not taking any spell damage. __________________ Last edited by Zotha; 12-05-2003 at 12:26 PM.

12-06-2003	#11
Coray Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 21	10k is enough to tank him just fine. I have just over 10k and have tanked him a few times start to finish. Sometimes my DI does get skipped over which is extremely annoying, but for the most part the hits that kill me, would just as likely have killed me with 10.5 or 11k hp. Also, we have around 60 people, and use 7 clerics in the cycle although we tend to have around 8-10 total on raids.

12-06-2003	#13
aspit Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 631 Rep Power: 21	. over aggro is not an issue on time tz..assuming you tank him properly. First of all 3 of his aes are 30 range the 4th if 50 range, so the only one that will land at max melee ect. When i tank im i make sure i have full buffs ect all 15 slots and trash up front. so jboots acumen cotr aura of green petals legacy of bracken vot divine intervention protection of seasons, tribunal, pot9, symbol, ward, brells ,focus, haste. The one ae you need to worry about as mt is tallons balance. Its neg 300 all resists and will most likely allow his other shit to land, slow aggro debuff ect. So what i do is group with a bard and have him mem high level dispell song. With full buffs his aes eat your top buffs, and bard dispell is top 2 slots only. It will occasionally skip a buff but very rarely. So I work with a bard to dispell that shit the whole fight and fill in the blankks with clickies. You can also work with a rune rotation or vie ect depending on how sloppy your dispelling gets. If they are top two slots youre fine, as long as they arnt eating something importatnt. I dont place them lower because they longest they last is 3 seconds and then you have a threat of his slow or debuff dropping lower in your buff order and you are fucked until it fades. Anyway doing this i have no problem aggroing and we normally have him to 25%ish before disc drops, then just fill in the blanks with druids and shaman. edit: dispelling his resist debuff will also save spike dps as he has a 3k ae dd and a 3k single target dd. __________________

12-06-2003	#14
Raaj Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,483 Rep Power: 113	We dont dispell or cure anything and very rarely lose anyone. Usually an 8-9 cleric rotation, and a 5-6 minute fight. Very straightforeward.

12-06-2003	#15
Phantron YOU AC WHORES!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,608 Rep Power: 24	It's not necessary to dispel but getting rid of Tallon's Balance makes the spikes a lot easier to deal with. Also prevents his deaggro/slows from landing which helps quite a bit with aggro. __________________ Phantron

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