Serious question for number crunchers.

Sarelin · 07-29-2003

Ok here it is.

I tanked Diabo Xi Xin in Vex Thall for the first time last night and I worked this out:

DB=200
DI=50

These are the only figures that fit the damage curve. Min Hit 250, max hit 1200.

Well they would be except for this...

I had some hits for 225,175,125,75,25.

Ok 225 is min hit under defensive. But WHERE the HELL did the other hits come from? These are HITS, not bashes, nukes, kicks or anything else.

I think I have the answer.

DXX Quads. Not often but he can. If when he does some hits are considered the offhand, there's no DB! Ergo min hit 50, max 1000. So under defensive I would see hits of 25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200.

But I didn't see those hits. I saw 25/75/125/175/225. I put this down to the small sample size.

Does anyone have some parses from other mobs that quad that could confirm my suspicions?

Sarelin · 07-29-2003

Oh I should add this...

The very very strange thing is that even under a sample this small you see that all the hits under the apparent minimum have a delta of 50? There SHOULD be some hits at 50, 100, 150, 200.

Above 225 damage I have hits at every possible combo. 250, 275, 300, 325, 350, 375, 500, 425, 450, 475, 500, 525, 550, 600, 625, 650, 675, 700, 725, 750, 775, 800, 825, 850, 900, 950, 1000, 1050, 1100, 1150, 1200.

Actually when I consider that my previous assumption of 200/50 seems wrong. Max hit under defensive would be 700. Where's 725, 775, 825 coming from?

I'm too drunk atm to work this out...

It's bugging me.

Any ideas?

07-29-2003

runes?

Solinar · 07-30-2003

Mobs do get the same DB in offhand as they get in main hand. These were the results of runes.

Sarelin · 07-30-2003

I can now explain the hits at 125 and 175. I was shielded for a short time.

I will have to go find out if anyone runed me - I don't believe so but I wasn't paying that much attention to my buff bar. This might explain the remaining anomalies at 25, 75, 725, 775 and 825.

Looks like it can all be explained anyway...

DI=50
DB=200

Defensive tanking mob.

Damn was I drunk last night!

Remf da Troll · 07-30-2003

Heyas-

Mob bash/kick/etc also use a different dmg calculation, which might fit the other values you saw-

RdT.

Sarelin · 07-31-2003

These were just the hits, bashes, kicks, everything else excluded.

07-29-2003	#1
Sarelin Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 208 Rep Power: 21	Serious question for number crunchers. Ok here it is. I tanked Diabo Xi Xin in Vex Thall for the first time last night and I worked this out: DB=200 DI=50 These are the only figures that fit the damage curve. Min Hit 250, max hit 1200. Well they would be except for this... I had some hits for 225,175,125,75,25. Ok 225 is min hit under defensive. But WHERE the HELL did the other hits come from? These are HITS, not bashes, nukes, kicks or anything else. I think I have the answer. DXX Quads. Not often but he can. If when he does some hits are considered the offhand, there's no DB! Ergo min hit 50, max 1000. So under defensive I would see hits of 25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200. But I didn't see those hits. I saw 25/75/125/175/225. I put this down to the small sample size. Does anyone have some parses from other mobs that quad that could confirm my suspicions? __________________ Sarelin Seis`Bua Overlord, Thunder, Innoruuk Last edited by Sarelin; 07-29-2003 at 06:40 PM.

07-29-2003	#2
Sarelin Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 208 Rep Power: 21	Oh I should add this... The very very strange thing is that even under a sample this small you see that all the hits under the apparent minimum have a delta of 50? There SHOULD be some hits at 50, 100, 150, 200. Above 225 damage I have hits at every possible combo. 250, 275, 300, 325, 350, 375, 500, 425, 450, 475, 500, 525, 550, 600, 625, 650, 675, 700, 725, 750, 775, 800, 825, 850, 900, 950, 1000, 1050, 1100, 1150, 1200. Actually when I consider that my previous assumption of 200/50 seems wrong. Max hit under defensive would be 700. Where's 725, 775, 825 coming from? I'm too drunk atm to work this out... It's bugging me. Any ideas? __________________ Sarelin Seis`Bua Overlord, Thunder, Innoruuk Last edited by Sarelin; 07-29-2003 at 06:41 PM.

07-30-2003	#5
Sarelin Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 208 Rep Power: 21	I can now explain the hits at 125 and 175. I was shielded for a short time. I will have to go find out if anyone runed me - I don't believe so but I wasn't paying that much attention to my buff bar. This might explain the remaining anomalies at 25, 75, 725, 775 and 825. Looks like it can all be explained anyway... DI=50 DB=200 Defensive tanking mob. Damn was I drunk last night! __________________ Sarelin Seis`Bua Overlord, Thunder, Innoruuk

07-31-2003	#7
Sarelin Veteran User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 208 Rep Power: 21	These were just the hits, bashes, kicks, everything else excluded. __________________ Sarelin Seis`Bua Overlord, Thunder, Innoruuk

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