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Old 09-28-2009   #1
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Any word from Devs on Old Man Mckenzie augs?

I tried to check the Sony forums for useful info and resulted in epic failure.

(How the hell both Raiders and Non-Raiders can embarrass themselves with the most ill informed rants, whines, post count conspiracy theories, account cancellations, stupid solutions and fixes ever; argue about them and repeat themselves 100's of times is beyond me)

Unlike the raid gear, the augs that are unlocked by the Naggy/Vox raids are still available in game and STILL require the Vox/Naggy raids to get them.

My question is do the Non-Raiders get to keep them?
I was under the impression the days of raid/non-raid augs were over.

Other than the Polished Moonstone, it would mean I'm wasting a hellava lot of time in the MM's when I could be focusing on finishing old raid content.
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Old 09-28-2009   #2
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The gear they are in the process of correcting was intended to be won by raiders, perish the thought that an non-raider could win it, farm it, place self in a corner with no real need to upgrade next expansion.

Augs on the other hand are considered group items, at a group level and are therefore not subject to the changes. The augs remain. The prices of the augs could still change and methods, dedication needed to obtain the brews for them.

As an aside, I plan to wait till underfoot before I decide what is worth buying.
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Ive only done the vox raid, but everything I had acess to has been removed includeing the augs.... If I do naggy do the augs reunlock then? or I still have to beat every crystallos event to see anything?
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They said yesterday that "talking" about the planned changes has resulted in failure; they will now decide, make the changes and then let the community know matter-of-fact.

So it's a waiting game.
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They made a horrible mistake by rushing the MM's into production.

It blew up on them bad.

They publicly posted how they have decided to rectify the situation and that triggered a shitstorm.

They've decided (they have to decide something), they're implementing, and a few details are either up in the air (flags) or decided and not disclosed - they aren't going to trigger another outcry prior to "the fix" hitting production.

My wild guess is that they will make the augs available to both raiders and non-raiders but:

They aren't saying. I've certainly had a mixed history in being able to read them in advance. Whatever they do will tick off somebody, so they're going to do what they think is best and let the chips fall where they may.

(Some people have reached their 4th or 5th item already. Boxing and directing the Brews to one toon advances them very rapidly. A half dozen upgrades from group to near endgame raid quality gear in a week or two by doing MM's? Unprecedented.)

I don't even know if this stuff is going to hit the Test server before release. That's how sensitive it has become.
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Old 09-29-2009   #6
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I'm just waiting for the double xp weekend that will surely result from this big ass clusterfuck
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it's comprehensible... actually it's a wonder why they didn't make the brew no-drop like the bazillion of other grind rewards they created. to my knoledge only the DoN crystals are the tradeable grind reward... I wonder why it didn't blew up. probably because the rewards were close to zero for raiders while this time it is atrative even for raiders (that aren't at the end content yet).
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The brews are no trade. But the chest loot can be sold back to the vendor for about 1/4 the value to buy the item. That's what people mean by selling.
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They should of locked or taken the MM missions completely out of the game soon as this started. Whatever they decide to do will backfire big time due to the time people have been doing the tasks. I've discovered most people don't read any eq related board or even the MOTD and as a result this will blindside them. That will cause a real firestorm.
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Chronobines are also tradeable. I wish the faycite was to. On a side note, um devs, move the freaking light and dark crystals to the alt currency tab already, ROFLMAO! Maybe only have the "currency de jour" (forgive me any mispellings Yoda) on the main tab. Bines I guess is the current as the brews are side content?
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I feel bad for the peeps who put in a little work ( it was not hard and way to easy) for this stuff. But the stuff is way to easy to get as it stood and the nerf was neccessary. I don't think gear that people already earned should go poof. But part of me thinks they should simply refund brews and refine the cost of stuff, raid flag some of it and nerf the gear to whatever level they think appropriate. Its a reasonable compromise.

I like the idea of raid flagging being required for the some of the stuff. I heard Crystallos level so far which is not bad. I don't know if this will go live on the Oct. 7th patch. It certainly sounds like, even the devs are not on the same boat. I agree the augs will be available to all and their may be two tiers of gear. Raid level and group level would make sense. But this is only speculation of course.

Brews as currency is a dumb idea, IMHO. What is everybody an alkie?

This was horribly thought out and implented poorly. I hope the double xp weekend is after we have the new AAs available, some of us have all the good ones and are maxed xp.
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LOL I understand the purpose of the gear and who it was intended for, but the implementation was rather... Wack LOL

If they wanted to give the gear away to the raiders who were struggling, they should have just gave everyone who was completely Crystallos flagged the items by making them /claimable. If you wanted them, /claim. If not, no worries.

(But really, if you completely beat Crystallos.... Are you really struggling with SoD!? LOL)

Trying to make it look like the gear was earned was a farce.
I sure hope I get to keep the augs though, I knew the armor was a mistake as soon as I saw the stats and never even considered it
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If i had my say, the gear would be removed permanently, and only augs, maybe more augs for vox would be left.

Why, the missions are really completely unrelated to raiding, and the earning of that type of gear is way to easy.

These missions should not offer anything that major.

Still, it's not up to us, and i wish them well with whatever they decide. I hope that we can keep the augs at least.
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Seriously, the gear really isn't that amazing, you don't see end gamers wanting the gear, just the augs... hrmm wonder why "raiders" want the augs left in?

Don't worry year gear is going to be leaps and bounds better than what the folks getting these will be. so stop bitching lol. hell group gear is only 200hp less currently.
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Seriously, the gear really isn't that amazing, you don't see end gamers wanting the gear, just the augs... hrmm wonder why "raiders" want the augs left in?

Don't worry year gear is going to be leaps and bounds better than what the folks getting these will be. so stop bitching lol. hell group gear is only 200hp less currently.
Bitching about what?
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