Warlord's Tenacity / Resolute Defiance...wth?

[Froggerx Xreggorf]

I got like, 59 or something aa's back with the aa return for GoD, decided to spend them in warlord's tenacity and resolute defiance, maxing them out cost about 40aa I think.

Anyways, does anyone have this ability maxed like me and feel that it should be upgraded, or there should be different timers for tenacity and defiance? Or maybe more of a heal then 1500 with the amount of aa's you spend in it? Or possibly an aa to lower the reuse time? (60mins|1hour)... It should come back when you die aswell in my opinion like LoH/HT do.


So whats your opinion on Warlord's Tenacity / Resolute Defiance ?

[Dima]

Originally Posted by Froggerx Xreggorf

So whats your opinion on Warlord's Tenacity / Resolute Defiance ?

A waste of AA.
It would be semigood if it had like, less then 10 minute reuseal, however.

If a situation arises where you have to use this, it is highly likely the same situation will come withing ~59 minutes that will fuck you over. Waste of AA, a toy for suicide maybe.

[Phantron]

Resolute Defiance is fine for what it does.

Maybe Warlord's Tenacity could be cheaper than 5/10/15, or did they lower the cost on that?

Of course, to make good use of WT/RD you actually have to pay attention to what's going on and have a good sense on when you're going to die.

[dethvegi1]

WT / RD is a great aa imo. 5k heal maxxed RD is nice for a get out of trouble instantly in a raid situation. Allows for alot of things really. 60 min on the reuse is soso but still use it alot . The dot is easily taken care of so not really an issue. I always just look at it like a free heal when you need it most.

[Zeus]

Make a new key for resolute definace or you'll still just get the 1.5 from WT and use the timer Maxed Resolute Definace was 5k heal and 680dot/per tick I believe, didn't check the other lvls sine I bought it with the returned AA's too, oh and yes cost was lowered to 5-5-5

[Garthud]

Yes, do as Zeus says... forget about the key for WT, and just use the key made for Resolute Deffence. Since they are on the same timer.. use the better one.

I think at least the first level, is very useful... for what now... 3 aa's for WT, then just 3 or 5 (don't remember) for RD, you now have an instant 3 k heal, the very second you need it. Saved my bacon many times, when that heal is just 2 seconds late.

Now... all the extra aa's to take it from a 3k heal up to a 5k heal.. well.. that's probably not worth it, because I have yet to see the time that my 3k heal was not enough, and that if it were 5k it would have.

Funny story I have to pass on with this... was helping a rouge on thier epic 1.5, at the bar fight, with 12 of us... was down to me and an almost dead SK left.... mob was at 1 %, I was at 2%.... hit my 3 k self heal... 20 seconds later, kill the mob.... 20 seconds later.. die from my own dot... only then to have the SK post to our guild... "Garthud has been killed by Garthud" *laughs*


Oh.. by the way.. you can't bandage fast enough to out run the dot....not that I didn't try, mind you.....

[Phantron]

What sucks the most when you win a fight using Resolute Defiance is knowing you're still going to die later, but at least you didn't before the mob did.

[Druss]

Maxed it, use it all the time. Had a moment in the Weaponry trial (we use a shaman healer) where I took a bad round, went to a sliver of health, popped this, and gave the shaman time to catch up.

Love this ability. I use it in raids, exo groups, and trials on a regular basis.

I think its fine as is. Usually just covers you when you take a bad round of damage, or buys your healer an extra second to land a heal. If you took away the downside (the dot) or lowered the reuse time, you'd have Pallies screaming about us taking Lay on Hands from them.

[Varalla]

Do you get more HP from it by maxing WT?
Or is it best to just get WT 1 and then max RD?

[Yoda]

I thought you can't train RD1 without having WT3 ?

[Mistersparkle]

you can do:

wt1 > wt2 > wt3 > rd1 > rd2 > rd3

or

wt1 > rd1 > wt2 > rd2 > wt3 > rd3

u need the same number of WT as RD... so if u want RD3 (5k heal) u need to get WT3 but if u are happy with RD1 (3k heal) then u can just get WT1 and then RD1.