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Old 06-15-2012   #31
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out of memory 1hSTA gives 12 displayed HP, and 1 gear HP gives around 1.6 displayed HP... so how the hell are you rating 1 point of hSTA twice less than 1 point of HP ?????
Kewl I will invert and see what I get. Good Lord calm down man LOL, I was just sharing. It's my shit, no hard and fast rule. Didn't mean to get anyone's panties in a bunch.
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Old 06-15-2012   #32
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btw, with your rating 12 HP is equal to 20 AC ... so you have a AC:HP ratio of 1.67


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So then make some aug suggestions Yoda. Perhaps instead of critisizing you can come up with a superior tool with your know how.
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So then make some aug suggestions Yoda. Perhaps instead of critisizing you can come up with a superior tool with your know how.
As you observed earlier, people can assign whatever weights to stats that they choose. Yoda is simply pointing out that you assigning weights so that there's an AC:HP ratio of 1.6 is questionable. Especially given that you also wrote "Ah ya, well AC is still my primary "must have" on an aug."

Using my rules (everybody's might be different):

1. Use http://www.raidloot.com/ and search for AC/HP augs ideally with 35+ AC having needed heroics and try to acquire them.

2. Install those augs.

3. See where that gets me.

4. Look up augs on http://www.raidloot.com/ with the goal of reaching 300+ in hAGI, hDEX, and hSTR while still favoring 35+ AC augs with at least some HP and End, acquire those I don't have, and install augs.

The result atm (I'm not done) is 8617AC 89963HP 327 hAGI, 301 hDEX, 302 hSTR, 277 hSTA


5. Use Magelo to "what if" gear upgrades and adjust augs for what I think is a good outcome.

6. Loot and adjust.

There's a method. It isn't incumbent on Yoda, Fred, nor I to provide a method much less a spreadsheet or application for working this out.

People were simply calling into question the weights you've elected to use and the resultant ranking of some augs. I note that the augs you are using look a whole lot like the augs I'm using despite our getting there via different routes.
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True. There are only so many uber augs in the game. I expect us raider types will all have extremely similar gear near the next expansion release (hopefully). Then it only boils down to technique and know how. The stats become meaningless if we all have the same. It's like everyone winning the lotto at once (Lord knows I could use a lotton win right about now :P)

I haven't had the time to sit down and play with the weights again. Too much RL chaos to worry about minor things like that atm-sorry.
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Went to raidloot.com today for the first time. Damn, wish I knew about this earlier. /smack huggly
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went to raidloot.com today for the first time. Damn, wish i knew about this earlier. /smack huggly
Doh! ROFL!
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My weights:

1ac, 1hstr, 1hsta = 10HP
1hagi = 20HP
1hdex = 25HP

Not perfect but real easy to compare at a glance.

Makes my 'to-get' list all:
30+ ac with ~90 avg HP and 4+ major heroics
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just under 30ac with 100+hp and 7+ major heroics

Good enough for me.
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Got bored, took the idea from here and made a program for it, Doesnt link to the aug itself, or show it(unless you look at the source file) but will do the weight thing for you.

https://www.box.com/s/63f426c6421706d6586e

If there is enough need/interest for it, I will expand upon it to have links to the augs and/or where to get them in the program itself.
Also might add functionality to compare with current augs you are wearing(derived from /output inventory) to see where your weakest link it.
And of course, slot showing as well.
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Google SS

This is really for a ranger, but to the extent anyone finds the SS helpful, feel free.

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