View Full Version : Any guess's as to the "Reward" for those already flagged?
Mofu-Troll
05-10-2003, 06:42 PM
Im thinking it will probably be 1 aa for each zone you earned a flag for that is no longer needed.
Mofu
Superchum
05-10-2003, 07:12 PM
Nope. They can't do that.
AA is a very structured idea. To give it away for free would go against the purpose of AA.
AA is designed to keep you playing, and keep you levelling. They will NEVER give you free AA.
If they do, I will be very very surprised.
Aveen
05-10-2003, 08:00 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if they gave away one piece of ornate armor for each flag you earned?
*Aveen wakes up as her alarm clock starts beeping*
Hussar
05-10-2003, 08:12 PM
Probably just a reach around after bending us over.
Shikarii
05-10-2003, 08:47 PM
heh my bonus is laughing my ass off since my only toon that had 3 flags is deleted :D
/cheers
Shikarii
05-10-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Aveen
*Aveen wakes up as her alarm clock starts beeping*
okay, i just learned something new...man, we got all the wimmens here at THE STEEL WARRIOR../wootwoot
Sackett
05-10-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Hussar
Probably just a reach around after bending us over.
LMAO!!!
The folks I know of that have gone through the flagging process would be happy "IF" they did this much.
Hussar
05-10-2003, 08:57 PM
whoa.... Aveen is female? woot!
Hey Shik, how's test doing? Might make a char there for the days when the drama isn't worth being logged on Terris
Wilhelmm_Lanys
05-10-2003, 08:58 PM
Reward: the uber title of "flagcompleter" added to the end of your name.
Shikarii
05-10-2003, 08:59 PM
Test sucks, Test is Evil. Test is Horrible. Test is a nightmare. Shoo go away test is teh debil rrrrrrrr!!!
Dobbo Baggins
05-10-2003, 10:05 PM
i'm sorry this stuff is gonna happen and it's not gonna be good at all for the ones that ebay and stuff. I would actually be more happy earning my flag then getting a freebie.
TaiilChayser
05-10-2003, 11:24 PM
The reward will prolly be a big middle finger from SoE... actually we'll prolly get 2
Brutul
05-10-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Aveen
Wouldn't it be nice if they gave away one piece of ornate armor for each flag you earned?
*Aveen wakes up as her alarm clock starts beeping*
LOL
And yes Aveen is a female. Where the hell have you guys been?
Dobbo Baggins
05-10-2003, 11:55 PM
well we know where you haven't been and thats on TM. asleep brutul or too much ale.
Khumak
05-11-2003, 03:15 AM
I expect the reward to be something useless to anyone that already had the flags.
Ask members of Ring of Valor about their "reward" for all those Inner Acrylia keys. People already flagged can expect the same.
Hussar
05-11-2003, 07:47 AM
What did Ring of Valor get as their reward? Haven't heard yet.
lovax
05-11-2003, 10:01 AM
My first thought was that a flag would give you a small XP bonus in the zone that you are flagged for.
It would seem like the easiest way to "reward" someone for doing the work without worrying about one class bitching about the reward being unfair.
Although they might just make it so unflagged you only get 90% XP, and if flagged you get full, something stupid.
Just thoughts.
Azlana
05-11-2003, 10:05 AM
*ponders*
Humm mebbes sexier armor fer me? Such a shame mes clevage is always covered up.
Talic Moore
05-11-2003, 10:20 AM
I concur whole heartedly, the reward should DEFINITELY be armor for Azlana with a higher cleavage stat.
See? Problem solved. Everybody wins. Nobody loses.
Brutul's not asleep, he's just moved on to a different realm. Mine. :D
/hugs Brutul and Shikarii
Hulanta
05-11-2003, 12:59 PM
Their best options for "reward"
1. AA points. Whatever you may think about it, AA points are a good reward they can give without being too unbalancing. The only people this reward would really suck for are the people who have so many AA points they have nothing useful left to spend them on. This definitely would not apply to most people. I could see the give a certain number for the easier flags, and a certain number for the harder flags. Maybe 3/5 or better.
2. Loot. For a guild where the members are in mostly Elemental armors, ornates won't cut it. Some classes would require different kinds of loots than others. Also, there are 8 flags total that they are talking about. How do you differentiate for each flag? I have no idea how they could do loot outside of dropping plat on us and that wouldn't be bad, but it certainly wouldn't be my idea of a reward.
Outside of that, I cannot think of any reasonable reward they may give. Maybe they will be more creative than that, but AA seems like the best reward to me, but it can't be just 1 AA per flag IMO. However, I will take anything they give me.
Spinetwist
05-11-2003, 01:05 PM
I have no idea what they are going to do but Im almost 100% positive it won't be even close to a shred of work we have done on flags. Think about it for a sec. How can you put a price on something so huge. Can you sit down and calculate how many hours it took to gain flags, all the failed attempts, all the times you assisted others get their flags? I know when I was bored and couldnt find a group I helped people in PoJ get their flags. How can Sony put out a sizeable reward when they cant even begin to measure the amount of work some of us have done.
Lets also think about Sony's power, how much they do care, and what they can and wont do.
I dont think they can give exp, aa's, or any kind of character advancement bonuses. Thats just not in the cards imo, and it would defeat the whole purpose of people playing EQ. Why take that away? People want to advance.
Items: Maybe they will offer some cheap item to keep us all happy. Something most of us will never use and will collect dust in the bank since we have long since had better.
What would be AWESOME would be if they gave everyone who is flagged a PoP charm, and it gets stronger for every zone you are in that you are FLAGGED for. That would be sweet.
skycrasher
05-11-2003, 01:16 PM
GM's give out AA points all the time on SH for doing quests / events / BOTB tournaments. It's not too far out of their reach.
Besides, how much time did we spend on getting our flags? Remember having to do MB cuz you didnt get CC right down on the first try? Or Terris Thule cuz you didnt have enough tanks to tank the golems? You could have gotten at least 5+ aa from the time you spent raiding.
Wilhelmm_Lanys
05-11-2003, 09:44 PM
If this god-forsaken system goes into effect, three things need to happend:
1) Every encounter in Plane of Tactics needs to be reworked simply due to how easy it is to blow guilds miz VZ/TZ and esp. RZ.
Rewards:
1) 10 AA per flag completed, excluding PoV/PoS. Basically, if you've completed PoNB, TT, MB, Grum, AD, Bot, you get 60 aa.
2) Guild-static flags. If at least 70% of your guild has completed at least 3 of these flags, any other flags that guild has attained become static. That means simply, every member with that guild tag automatically receives any other flag which the guild has completed. Example, if your guild has killed AD, MB and Grummus and Terris at least twice, and have also killed Mithaniel Marr, Rydda (HoH-B trials), Bertox VZ, TZ and Saryn, then every member in your guild automatically receives these flags.
Nothing short of the above demands would adequately reward the guild who have spent tens of hours failing, wiping, clearing, kiling and re-killing these crack-ass no loot-dropping encounters.
I think it'll be something zone-specific, like an xp modifier or a charm. It can't be something like AA, since in their message they don't specify that they'll be removing the flagging process (eliminating trials/quests). It'd be too easy for someone to run through the Trials just to pick up a handful of AA points. The reward will have to be something that would benefit not only people who already have their flags, but act as an incentive for people to continue to do the flagging trails/quests.
What I envision happening:
1. SOE will upgrade the loot tables on mobs such as AD, Grummus, Behemoth.
2. It's possible they'll make this "free flagging" thing a lot like the "key quests" in that they flag you for exp-only.
But I gotta agree with Spine, not much can really compensate for the time spent flagging people.... more importantly, *helping others get flagged.*
I don't think they'll give out free AA's, btw. It would be nice if they did, but I really think they'll want to keep as many timesinks in the game as possible. AA = timesink.
It would be nice if they put in a boosted ZEM for flagged people while reducing non-flagged exp (to 80% or so).
Off-topic: There are more of us females out there than you might think :D Probably about 20% of my EQ friends are also female.
Superchum
05-11-2003, 11:03 PM
"What would be AWESOME would be if they gave everyone who is flagged a PoP charm, and it gets stronger for every zone you are in that you are FLAGGED for. That would be sweet."
Wow.
That's an awesome idea. Something reasonable, and something they can actually do within the framework of the game without being unbalancing.
But, alas they may not do this, because some people may be Flagged out the whazoo, and still not have LoY and thus not have a charm slot.
Then again, this might boost sales on LoY if the charm were worthwhile.
Again, very very interesting idea.
Probably the best suggestion I've seen offered.
AA's simply aren't gonna be the reward.
But a charm might.
My best idea was, everyone gets a free chain bridle or big ass drum of their choice so they can have a mount. Or can just sell the mount for plat.
AA is a very structured idea. To give it away for free would go against the purpose of AA.
AA is designed to keep you playing, and keep you levelling. They will NEVER give you free AA.
They have awarded aa's for reporting bugs.
Gerick
05-12-2003, 04:55 AM
just like to make a point, instead of cutting down non flagged xp (wouldnt want people spending even more time in your zone right?) why not just buff up? i think thats the problem with EQ: the nerf stick, lets shred it and break out the never before used buff up stick! (melees first in line plz!!) my thoughts on the charm idea is on the next page, like the charm idea in general
Gerick
05-12-2003, 04:59 AM
i like the charm idea alot, maybe even a charm that casts 6 levels of a new buff line, each one for a differnt plan, maybe completeing nightmare b would grant fearless and BoT would grant storm strength and magic resists
Hulanta
05-12-2003, 08:18 AM
An uber charm would be a nice reward!
My guess is finally adding in the Plane of War for those elemental flagged.
Braeorn
05-12-2003, 10:25 AM
My guess is the reward will be akin to looting a pair of split paw gloves...likley nothing any of us who've been playing for any length of time would want/need/get value out of.
Of course, I never thought they'd remove the flagging access either, so Who TF knows.
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