View Full Version : Splitting AA exp and regular exp ... is there a bug ?
Sykeya
04-17-2003, 08:07 AM
I have seen on several class boards including this one advice NOT to splitt AA and regular exp with say 80 % AA and 20% regular because that part of Everquest is broken.
Well I submitted a petition last night to ask if that was indeed the case and 3 GM's swear til they are BLUE in the face that there is no loss of exp if you split it at all ...
Does someone have some proof or an explanation for my tired brain ?
Thanks
Syke
Galuvian
04-17-2003, 08:57 AM
At the beginning of Luclin, the AA XP split was very buggy. I haven't heard much about it in the last 6 months, I think they fixed it.
Wulfran
04-17-2003, 08:59 AM
Honestly, ever since exp splitting came out in Luclin, there have been acknowledged bugs (announced when they were fixed) and the rumours of bugs. Whether they have all been addressed, no one knows. Myself, I find exp grinding tedious enough that any chance is too much...
Raunstonecutter
04-17-2003, 09:25 AM
I wouldn't split X at all. While you will get the same amout of levels and AAs as someone who goes 100% either way, the person going 100% will get the results quicker. They will get either the AA's or levels sooner while the split person will get them at a slightly slower rate.
Its really preference. I say keep it 100% either way, espically if there are split bugs wandering around as well.
Brutul
04-17-2003, 09:43 AM
They said that they fixed it, but I'm with Raun. Even if there's no bugs, splitting isn't a good idea. If it takes you 2 weeks to get 1 level and 3 aa points on a 50/50 split, you would have been better off getting the level in one week and the 3 aa points the next week. Probably getting the level would even make the AAs go faster, or vice-versa.
Sylviania
04-17-2003, 10:22 AM
as stated before, it was buggy before and corrected since. but anyway splitting xp has no use other than psychologics ones ... it is more effective to go 100% one then 100% other , as you will have to wait less before you see 1st increase , even if at the end u finish at the same state.
arative
04-17-2003, 10:47 AM
if you are already level 65, its not too big of a deal to go 90/10 split. Thats what I do when I get below 10% regular xp. Sure getting an aa xp point is a little slower but its not that noticable.
Auron
04-17-2003, 12:20 PM
Maybe its cause i dont have a great need for AA anymore but i have been doing a 90/10 split (aa/regular) for some time and its nice cause you still get AA but im almost 40% into 65 which is just nice to have.
Brutul
04-17-2003, 12:33 PM
3% in 65 4 life!
Seriously, it's fun to ding every time you get rezzed :D.
chongo
04-17-2003, 01:15 PM
What I did was;
powered it to 65. 100% exp into Regexp.
I did this up to 10% into level 65.
Then, I went 100% into aa.
I've been nearing the point, after dying numbers times on raid encounters, that i've been 0% into my level before rez.
So I've been rebuilding that buffer again. 100% reg exp up to 10% into level 65.
However, that seems time consuming. So what I've started to do, get to 10% into level 65, then split exp 90% to aaexp and 10% to regexp.
In the upcoming weeks/months, this should even out nicely.
As it was said before, taking 10% away from aaexp really isn't that noticable.
Coray
04-17-2003, 01:22 PM
I don't think there are any bugs with it.
As for splitting or non splitting I didn't split when I was doing exp for aa points or for levels, but now that I am 65 with most of the AAs I want, and the experience I get is mostly on raids, I tend to do 10/90 or 20/80 split. It allows me to die and retain the same level of experience in 65, but also gain a lot of aa exp on raids.
I did the same as Chongo... 100% reg to 65, 10% in, 100% to AAs, then once i get low (omg, I die one more time and I re-visit 64) and I re-do my buffer
weoden
04-17-2003, 03:25 PM
I think most players don't trust eq math.... So therefore going 100% one way or the other is safe. If you split up the xp then your trusting vi to do math properly...
chongo
04-17-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by weoden
I think most players don't trust eq math.... So therefore going 100% one way or the other is safe. If you split up the xp then your trusting vi to do math properly...
If indeed the math isn't being done correctly, it's sooo minimal that I can't tell. I group w/ others that are doing 100% aa vs my 90/10... and they approximately ding an aa when i'm ~90% through.
And that's all the proof I need.
Baadan
04-17-2003, 07:36 PM
Good point.. but if the 10% you're not getting into AA is so minimal.. is it affecting your normal EXP bar any?
You can easily test this. Just choose a camp location, measure the amount of exp you get after 10-20 kills at 100% reg, then measure the amount of exp your get after 10-20 kills at 100% AA, then go 50%/50% for 10-20 kills and see if the amount of reg versus AA is half of what you earned a few minutes ago with the same number of mobs in the same camp.
chongo
04-17-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Baadan
Good point.. but if the 10% you're not getting into AA is so minimal.. is it affecting your normal EXP bar any?
Yes, the amount of exp added to my regular exp bar IS very minimal.
But so is the exp loss when you get a 96% ress.
For arguments sake, lets say I've been exping 2hrs. Lets say i'm at a 90/10 percentage. Let's say I walk away w/ 1.5aa earned in that 2hrs. I'll probably only have gained 3% regxp.
But remember, the point isn't to actively level my reg exp, it's to save my buffer. Hell, if i could go 95/5 I would.
This is all coming from a 65 war, I have no need to get reg exp anymore. You Baadan, on the other hand, may not want to use this method until later.
arative
04-17-2003, 09:40 PM
while I havn't tested it or kept accurate records. I would say its about 20-25 mobs per 1 percent of real xp when you are on the 90/10 split. which isnt too bad and it really doest slow down your aa xp all that much
Jemort
04-17-2003, 11:13 PM
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Mofu-Troll
04-22-2003, 09:50 AM
Ive found the best way for me to do the split is to guage the strenght of the mobs im fighting. If im fighting low blues or light blues , i put it almost all to AA , as they will actually move the aa bar. If im fighting mobs close to my lvl or above i go all to reg exp. Not sure if it really matters at all , but at least my bars keep moveing heh.
Mofu
Khumak
04-23-2003, 01:08 PM
I did 100% regular xp til I hit 65, stayed there til I had 20% into 65, then switched to 100% AAxp. Any time I drop below about 15% into 65 I switch to 100% regular xp again until I'm back at 20. 10 is probably fine too, I just like a nice big buffer in case something goes horribly wrong or I have a couple of deaths without a res. Plus, like others have said it's just more efficient to go 100% either way unless they have the split messed up such that you gain more total xp with it split.
Jysin
04-23-2003, 02:00 PM
3% in 65 4 life!
Seriously, it's fun to ding every time you get rezzed
Fuck no!! My luck, I would brain-fart someday and loot without a rez and then wouldnt be able to wear half of my gear from lack of lvl65!! :D lol
Smohg
04-24-2003, 06:54 AM
I do 90/10 and I am slowly building my cushion into 65 - almost dinged 2 yellows - but I raid almost daily, grind about 2 times a week, and I die ALOT.
Zerar_Povar
04-28-2003, 01:58 PM
OK, here's what I did/do.
100% level to 65.
got 10-12% buffer built up.
Went 100% into AA, but noticed that dying a few times on raids was not very nice to my buffer, so I went 90% AA 10% level.
In BoT with 90% going to AA and 10% going to level, I still get the 1-2% AA per kill that I was getting at 100% AA, and every once in a while, I would get 1% reg. level... so when xping in BoT and everywhere else I just keep it at 90% AA and 10% level. Keeps the buffer strong, and still gains me AA's at a normal pace.
I must say, I love the Sol Ro XP... though the mobs are not too nice as far as the dmg they hit for, split pulling, amount of HP they have.... but 2-3% a kill is a nice thought.
TrilanBladefury
04-29-2003, 08:51 AM
I played around with splitting AA/Exp for awhile and I thought that the exp bar was moving normally and the AA bar was filling up pretty quick.
I had it set on 20% AA, after reading this thread and considering the levels > aa threads I switched it back and still don't notice any increase in exp.
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