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Suurge
05-10-2012, 03:27 PM
Was thinking about this earlier, and discussing it a bit in one of the in game war channels, and I figured i'd toss it out here and see what you guys thought about it as well...

So for the past 3 xpacks, our BP click has been a hate proc that triggers when we swing. Similar to the way an aggro poison works, minus the DD component, etc. Personally, I feel its COMPLETELY useless . . . I literally never use it. Aggro is quite easy to gain, and maintain, both in group and raid content (especially in raid content) . . . . with the addition of undivided attention, ageless enmity on a fast reuse, projection on a fast reuse, warlords fury adding a monster bonus to said abilities . . . not to mention the other short reuse AAs and discs . . . theres too much to list, and using it all in game on a given mob is frankly overkill.

That being said, I still have my SoD BP, because THAT click, in certain situations, is INCREDIBLY useful (the hate-proc-when-struck buff with 60 or whatever charges). Then I look at underfoot shawl (the rune one), and think, that was a pretty good idea . . . doesnt generate hate obviously, but still a randomized mitigation source.

So what if our current BP click were a combo of the two? A proc-when-struck, charged buff, rune proc of some sort? Could be a vie (percent-based mitigation up to a certain amount of damage like the cleric spells, not to be confused w/ coa bp which is a duration vie) or, even better, a rune-line proc, that COMPLETELY mitigates an incoming hit when its active (similar to the short buff you get when you use shield topple) .. say 60 charges, fires at random when struck, until it expires, completely absorbing one incoming melee or spell hit? Would be too much to ask, i think, if it were to generate AE aggro as some runes do, but never know, paladin CoA BP is pretty badass in that regard (heal proc when struck, monster AE aggro)... But if you think about it . . . shield block basically does nothing (see parses . . it really doesnt do much) . . . this could possibly compensate for that for a set duration (which charges remain on the buff)

Thoughts?

Yoda
05-11-2012, 03:22 AM
good idea, but shield topple absorb a part of the hit, not all of it (40% up to 525 HP, so a ridiculous amount), which is weaker than the UF shawl (100% up to 850).

I agree and a combinaison of the two : 1k melee(/spell?) rune with aggro around 500 fixed hate at 10ppm on dodge skill for 2 min

Battleblade
05-11-2012, 03:39 AM
While I disagree with the OP's statement that Warrior aggro abilities are fast refresh and in several raid events as well as in quick kill groups I do find myself looking for something unclicked that produces aggro (Bladed Fang Mantle and my BP are on a displayed menubar for fast clicking) ....

I do also agree that our BP click hasn't been much bang for the buck and that something more closely resembling the Paladin CoA BP (benefits upgraded to reflect the increase in mob power) would be better and fairer.

Oh, and a useful Epic clicky while they are at it kplsthnx. Oh and an updated Symbol of the Planesmaster too.

huggly
05-11-2012, 06:48 AM
If your clerics are using shining armor you need to have the vie component of shield topple blocked.
Unless the fixed it overwriting Shining Armor.

Mendler
05-11-2012, 08:32 AM
If your clerics are using shining armor you need to have the vie component of shield topple blocked.
Unless the fixed it overwriting Shining Armor.

Still holds true as of last week.

Silthrix
05-11-2012, 10:48 AM
Well as someone using Cultural since UF, I wish the clicky was the Fort Extender and just sat there until you actually used Fort and it then poofed when the timer was up. Or, they added a slot in the cultural to add an augmentation with the Fort Extender on it. I really have no aggro issues. However I had forgotten about my SOD BP. I think I will pull that dinged up rusted POS out of the bank and stick it in a BP for the click effect--thanks Suurge :D

Desthin
05-11-2012, 03:51 PM
Personally I vote for 15% 1mil dmg vie that stacks with shining! 5 min duration.

But barring that I would be happy with anything other than what it is currently.