Good place to grind to 80

[dzirkelb]

I am starting the grind to 80, and was looking for suggestinos on places to do the grind. I'll be 3 boxing a 75shaman / 75 ranger sometimes, and sometimes i'll 3 box those adn add a 75 cleric / rogue.

Warrior buffs to 3500ac 19.5khps, rogue is anguish geared, rest are all bazaared out with around 9-10k mana.

Crowd control is sort of an issue, so we are looking for an outside zone if possible. When we grind in RSS, i can handle a pull of 3 or 4. However, in RSS, we run out of mobs to kill quickly per spawn cycle...generally pull 3 named rooms when there. When in atiiki, i can handle a pull of 2 with my trio, but it drains a lot of mana. That is just some explanation of what we can handle.

I heard dsk is good xp...I just need to finish one more quest and we'll all have access to there...plus I want the AC augs.

I checked out loping plains last night and tanked a few bears. They are super easy; however, I ran around the zone looking for a good spot to camp where there would be abundant single pulls, and didnt' really see any good spot. Any ideas of a good spot in loping maybe?

What about the new lvl 70 hot zone? Would that be ok?

Would katta missions be the way to go? If so, what would be the best for xp besides the thallsious ones (we tried that zone last night, too many adds).

Vald? Are the pulls there double basically?

Frostcrypt? I assume I could only handle one at a time there, and not even sure if I could really handle them at all.

Atiiki? That place seems to be dieing down from the kiters, so generally won't run out of mobs there; however, the pulls get long and seem to be downtime. I'll probably do my trio boxing here though.

[Cowboyatheart]

I heard dsk is good xp...I just need to finish one more quest and we'll all have access to there...plus I want the AC augs.

Would katta missions be the way to go? If so, what would be the best for xp besides the thallsious ones (we tried that zone last night, too many adds).

Vald? Are the pulls there double basically?

Frostcrypt? I assume I could only handle one at a time there, and not even sure if I could really handle them at all.

Atiiki? That place seems to be dieing down from the kiters, so generally won't run out of mobs there; however, the pulls get long and seem to be downtime. I'll probably do my trio boxing here though.

The atiiki instance fate of the combine is extremely easy, and decent xp until the final part where you kill the emperor. If you bring 3 in a fellowship, between campfire, and binding near quest giver you can chew through these fast.

Vald, if you can get down in the pit, the lakeskaters are a walk in the park.

I havn't been to frostcrypt often, but it is pretty tight in there, easy to get a bad pull.

[Kudedor]

I found the "Stone Tongue" mission to be good xp. You shouldn't ever get more than a two pull on that one. Hills of Shade has a few camps that you can single pretty wel and get some drops while you XP. Just avoid the wisps!

My advice is to figure out where your target augs drop and do those camps for your grind. DSK Won't take very long for the Shards, the Stonewardens would keep you busy forever. Mech Guardian might be good for the 30/75 aug, if you can handle the pulls

[dzirkelb]

I think mech guardian may be a stretch for me to tank with all the boxes, but hills of shade could be an option. Where approx in the zone is a good spot to camp?

I'll check out those two missions for katta. Any information about them off hand? Alla has been down for 2 days, and I have never started a katta mission / only completed a couple.

[daw4888]

Thalliuss is by far the best exp for an open zone. There are a few camps deep in teh zone you can get to with a rog and then running above it and setting a fellowship camp. I would recommend the normal thalliuss zone since it respawns, and not the instance since you have to keep getting new instances. Pulls in thallius are max at 2 if you dont do something stupid. most pulls are 1.

[Mendler]

I would hit Vald royals with that trio. Setup camp in the room prior to the named that drops the 30 ac aug. WHen you are looking at the room with the big table take a right and setu pin that corner. The corner has no roamers there so its really safe. The exp is really good and you wont have any need for cc since you can tank 2 I'm sure.

[dzirkelb]

Vald royals sounds neet...I like the 30ac aug :) Is this marked on the map at all or is there a loc or directions or something? Complete newb to that zone. Again, alla is down, so can't really look it up. Any clue on what the name of the mob that drops the aug is?

The thing I didnt like about thalssiuss is the constant moving...I heard pulling up ramps is a bad thing, and I think I did that once and it ended badly. also, i coulda sworn it didn't let me use a horsie in thalss last night.

[Cowboyatheart]

For hills of shade, check for a thread on axe of vine hewing, good info there if the drop is useful to you.

There are also villagers over on the right, with hester valance I think his name is being one of the nameds in that camp, that's fairly easy to pull and doesn't hit too rough. (trivial with a real puller).

And I'm going to have to check out your advice on the vald royals mendler.

[Kudedor]

The elementals out on the boat should be good xp, as well. (In HoS)

[daw4888]

the 30 AC aug is in the northern most room, and the eastern most mob. So just open teh map and find the north most room, then the farthest mob into that room is the PH.

[dzirkelb]

excellent information guys. I remember seeing axe of vine hewing, but didnt' really read about it as I didnt' have expansion yet. I'll take a look at it now.

I'm gettng excited about the 30ac aug mob...how hard do the giants hit for in vald? I can trio 2 if they hit for 1500, but its hairy. Shaman only has like 100 aa's

[dzirkelb]

Found the thrad on axe...seems like random ph's on random plants or something, but could be an actual ph. Either way, seems to clear the area. Anyone have rough stats on weapon? Rough stats on how hard mobs hit for in HoS?

[dzirkelb]

Ya, i want the axe of vien hewing...i have the lullarand axe or whatever in offhand, this will be better dps / aggro...not a whole lot, but it will help.

[dzirkelb]

the 30 AC aug is in the northern most room, and the eastern most mob. So just open teh map and find the north most room, then the farthest mob into that room is the PH.

How is travel to this mob? Do I have to worry about see invises and such? I plan on checking it out tonight if I get time before raid.

[daw4888]

How is travel to this mob? Do I have to worry about see invises and such? I plan on checking it out tonight if I get time before raid.

There are some random see invis on the way to teh north buildings. Then inside the building is random see invis. Its pretty easy to scout if your careful. If nothing else you can clear you way in, but normally you can get lucky and be able to run most of the way to the camp. Once you are at the camp you can hide in the back corner of the room and only have to kill 2 mobs/round if you want to be a lazy ass.

[dzirkelb]

Hehe, i'll be looking for xp...but its nice to know i can be a lazy ass if I want :)

[Cowboyatheart]

Found the thrad on axe...seems like random ph's on random plants or something, but could be an actual ph. Either way, seems to clear the area. Anyone have rough stats on weapon? Rough stats on how hard mobs hit for in HoS?

I don't have actual numbers but can tell you that it's not too rough. Once slow lands, CH is enough to keep me up almost indefinatly against a single. (boxing the cleric) I normally hit sacred light for the first heal then CH's as slow was landing, with the occasional light when CH failed to crit a few times in a row,
Doubles I can do undisc'd, but need to work the healer a little harder. Triples didn't happen enough to really say.
I think I have some levels on you, but it sounds like you buff out to a little more AC and similar hp.

[dzirkelb]

I check out vald last night to go to the 30ac camp. I wasn't able to get back there because there was a pull of 3 that I couldn't handle (didnt' try). I was able to kill a pull of 2 while defesnive, but it took all my mana pretty much.

What about direwind? Any thoughts on there? Are the mobs plentiful there so I don't have downtime on pulls and are they single?

[Tybor]

i loved katta missions in thall when i was grinding up my bots. not only was the xp decent, the faction worked well to get them in praetorian armor.

the fire coral mission was a walk in the park, esp with a rogue. use the rogue to run to the fire coral cavern, invis 2 other toons to run across the water and use the rogue to pop a campfire in the tunnel. at most 2 mobs at a time there, kill enuf to update the mission, loot coral with the cleric, gate him abck to a bind spot by the quest giver. can finish the mission part in 15-20 mins, then just pull more mobs for another 25 mins or so til the quest lockout ends, rinse repeat~

[daw4888]

i loved katta missions in thall when i was grinding up my bots. not only was the xp decent, the faction worked well to get them in praetorian armor.

the fire coral mission was a walk in the park, esp with a rogue. use the rogue to run to the fire coral cavern, invis 2 other toons to run across the water and use the rogue to pop a campfire in the tunnel. at most 2 mobs at a time there, kill enuf to update the mission, loot coral with the cleric, gate him abck to a bind spot by the quest giver. can finish the mission part in 15-20 mins, then just pull more mobs for another 25 mins or so til the quest lockout ends, rinse repeat~

Ya, that works if you want faction. If you just want exp, you much better off useing the non-instanced thal. Then you can just kill lvl 74-76 mobs pretty endlessly. With a 20 min repop you never have to move from a set camp. Which for a boxer is a bonus.

[dzirkelb]

Ended up doing vald pit last night...that was pretty good xp I thought. I think i'll box my trio in the pit there, and when I have cleric / rogue with me, i'll take the 30ac camp as I can tank 3 giants at a time I believe with cleric healing.

[Brokkah Narrow]

If your rogue has escape then there shouldnt be any need for a 3 pull getting to that camp. I actually went and camped this yesterday with my war/clr/rog combination and I used an escape pull to split the 3 just inside the room with the stairs. Everything else was a max 2 pull.

Got 3 of the 30AC augs in 1 hour as well which was nice :p (3 back to back named).

[dzirkelb]

How do you do the escape pull?

[daw4888]

How do you do the escape pull?

Tag all 3 with your rog.. run.. out the building.. soon as 1 or 2 mobs turn the corner fade before the last mob does.. then pick..

[dzirkelb]

cool :)

[daw4888]

cool :)

You should look into finding a bard frnd.. Pulling, slow, haste, dps are l33t.

[dzirkelb]

Ok, we are campfired in the giants area. My question is this. The room I am campfired in is all the way north, with the campfire set inthe immediate sw corner. In this room there are doors that lead north, south, east, nad west. I am guessing this is not the correct room, asn there is one more door to the north. The room to the north has 4 spawns, each one has giants next to each other, so each pull will be double. Is that the room where the ac aug spawns?

[daw4888]

Ok, we are campfired in the giants area. My question is this. The room I am campfired in is all the way north, with the campfire set inthe immediate sw corner. In this room there are doors that lead north, south, east, nad west. I am guessing this is not the correct room, asn there is one more door to the north. The room to the north has 4 spawns, each one has giants next to each other, so each pull will be double. Is that the room where the ac aug spawns?

The north Most room in the zone... and yes it has 4 mobs in it.. and only breaking the room will be 2 pulls.. once its broke you can split the spawns up so they will spawn spaced out.

[Brokkah Narrow]

The correct room is the northern one. The room has 6 mobs in it. One wanders, but his spawn point is immediately to the right of the door as you enter. He will wander out into the corridor before so if you are patient you can get him single. Otherwise, the first pull will be 3. BE WARNED, if you try and tag this guy whilst he is still in the room, he will path INTO the room and pull the whole lot on you.

Next are 2 giants close to where you enter the room in the middle. This is a 2 pull.

There is another giant to the right in between a couple of tables/chairs/whatever. He doesnt add on any pulls and can be left alone.

Finally there are another 2 mobs towards the back of the room. The one furthest back is the ph for the named.

As you might guess from my first paragraph, I tried to pull the guy by the door and he trained the whole room on me. Rather than try and fight, I stuck fortitude up and ran my cleric into the far northwest corner, let warrior die and used the rogue to drag him to the cleric. This corner is safe so long as

a) The named isnt up (larger aggro radius)
b) You keep your ass planted on the wall.

If none of the mobs at the entrance to the room see invis, you can get to this spot by hugging left into the room and then heading straight along the western wall to that corner.

From this spot, you can just pull the 2 mobs that are the ph + his friend if you wish. I kept the room cleared easily with 3 chars, spacing them so after a couple of rounds it was comfortable singles.

Respawn time is ~20 minutes.

Good luck :)

[dzirkelb]

Excellent, thanks for all the information.

[AnteroUK]

Did the Crypt camp over the weekend with our 4 box crew, the named is very frequent popper, 4 in 5 clears for 3 ac augs and 1 proc aug(happy ranger).

Then tried the FC aug, both Saturday and Sunday afternoons for 2 hours a go, but couldnt get the named to pop(about 5 clears of the room and surrounds per day).

And the robot in DSH still hates me.

[dzirkelb]

We were unable to do the Frostcrypt one as we can't paci mobs, and the pulls look like a FD puller is needed.

We did get the 30ac aug from vald though, so thats nice :)

[Rildoan]

FC ac aug camp is a pain because the area near it isn't safe to AFK. I've never tried the Crypt ac aug camp yet. Seen the Fragment drop in the giant robot but my dice sux =\

[Brokkah Narrow]

You can do the FC aug camp if you have someone who can rootpark well, but a split puller makes it a lot simpler I'd agree.

If you have raid gear and a slower then you can just tank 2-3 at once.

[AnteroUK]

For the FC aug it is only when you pull the room the named pops in where you pull 3, we had a chanter with us who was charming one of the 3, while I tanked 2. We then killed the pet afterwards. We were using this method if we got double pulls too as the giants as mad DPS.

On Sunday we had FD puller and chanty with us, FD pulling is not easy as the mobs seem to have LOS agro, as soon as you go out of LOS the mobs forget you. You also have limited room in which to FD, although the mob agro radius is very small.

Once we had cleared the named room we setup camp in there, trying to time the spawns is a pain as only the wandering mob has a fixed spawn timer, the static pops varied between about 22mins and 28 mins iirc.

[dzirkelb]

I tanked 2 at once with no problem, was defensive though. 3 will be a stretch.

[Swansong]

Ashengate scalewatchers is always fun, although I don't think you could do that one while boxing so many toons =)