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Slagfest
04-21-2003, 08:59 PM
Looking for the list of what stacks....had it lost it looking for another one

Grendonbb
04-21-2003, 09:51 PM
Natural DS (Fire elemental form, etc)
Call of the Rathe/8th coldain ring
Spells (aegis of ro, shield of thorns)
Songs

or you lookin for specific spells? :p

weoden
04-21-2003, 09:58 PM
you forgot potions too.

Baadan
04-21-2003, 10:12 PM
Out of curiousty, what is the BEST possible DS stacking?

Besrikarle
04-21-2003, 10:37 PM
Flameshield of Ro-Mage
Kilva's Skin of Flame-Potion
Psalm of Veeshan-Bard
Warsong of Zek-Bard

Spirit of the Wood-Druid AA, 5 ticks
Wrath of the Wild- Druid AA, 1 hit
Mark of the Righteous-Cast on mob, cleric

Plus self only clicky or innate items.

Tarean
04-21-2003, 11:15 PM
The highest I've gotten was 229. Shaman potion, mage DS, bard song, with the bard and a druid useing puretone/SLtW at the same time. That only lasts a min or two, usually around 177 or so without the druid/bard timeing puretone/SLtW.

Sylviania
04-22-2003, 04:13 AM
Besrikarle forgot Call of the Rathe-Ranger

Besrikarle
04-22-2003, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Sylviania
Besrikarle forgot Call of the Rathe-Ranger

Actually, I didnt. Call of the Rathe is overwritten by Kilva's potion. 10vs33 ds.

Sylviania
04-22-2003, 07:18 AM
really ? oh that sucks , potion should stack with everything :/
thanks for info

Besrikarle
04-22-2003, 11:24 AM
Yah, would be nice. They share the same slot, along with the 8th coldain ring effect.

Korak Sarathai
04-22-2003, 12:26 PM
http://lucy.fnord.net/

Learn it, use it, love it.

Check the listing for each damage shield effect and see what slot it goes into. If two effects go in the same slot, they won't stack.

Smakz
04-23-2003, 12:12 AM
i usually leave DS stackin up to my casters ... when tankin i usually get around 180ish, so i dont worry too much.

Cintanul
04-23-2003, 12:55 AM
Maelstrom of Ro (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3486&source=Live) = 45
Kilva's Skin of Flame (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1331&source=Live) = 33
Shield of Pain (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3608&source=Live) = 10
Blessing of Vah Kerrath (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=2247&source=Live) = 8
Spikecoat (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=518&source=Live) = 4
Psalm of Veeshan (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3368&source=Live) = 15 * 3.9 = 58
Warsong of Zek (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3374&source=Live) = 15 * 3.9 = 58
Mark of the Righteous (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3477&source=Live) = 34
Spirit of the Wood (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3279&source=Live) = 55
Wrath of the Wild (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=3257&source=Live) = 650

So you can have a 955 point damage shield for one hit, a 305 point damage shield for 5 ticks after that, and a 250 point damage shield from then on. You need Puresteel Mantle (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=13690), Talisman of Vah Kerrath (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=8364), Girdle of Living Thorns (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=2510) or Gleaming Bauble (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=32024), a bard with Blaring Horn of Fire (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=27996) and the right AAs, and a druid with the right AAs though.

Cozlo
04-23-2003, 09:15 AM
FYI ... apparently they are fixing the *bug* that allows people to get experience from killing a mob solely or mostly with a DS.

Slagfest
04-23-2003, 03:03 PM
Cintanul ...that is something i never thought possible


thanx folks

weoden
04-23-2003, 05:40 PM
There has been a bunch of discussion about who gets the damage attributed to them for damage shield. On the one hand, if the wearer gets the damage then they get additional aggro but you can pl twinks much easier. Whereas if the caster gets the damage then there are aggro issuses with that. or if no one gets the aggro then your back to the pling problem.

Anyway, if VI is searching for a method to (1) help wars keep aggro and (2) enhance druids/mages in groups then keeping the attributed aggro/damage on the wearer really helps in those departments.

Grendonbb
04-24-2003, 12:13 AM
you forgot potions too.

actually I didn't; they fall under 8th ring/Call of the Rathe.

Smohg
04-24-2003, 06:52 AM
How about the effect from the "cloak of icy shadows" - that seems to be a cha buff with a 6 point DS - anyone know of stacking issues with that one?

tarsk
04-24-2003, 07:05 AM
slot 4, so according to lucy there's a few things it won't stack with, but not that many..

Cintanul
04-24-2003, 11:18 PM
How about the effect from the "cloak of icy shadows" - that seems to be a cha buff with a 6 point DS - anyone know of stacking issues with that one?
http://lucy.fnord.net/stacking.html?id=2197&source=Live

The best damage shield in that slot WAR can get right now is Shield of Pain from Puresteel Mantle.

brutall
04-25-2003, 03:08 AM
Nice list Cintanul, thank you for doing the math for us. Lucy helps alot with stacking questions, I have only seen a few errors and they were pretty trivial.

I'd like to talk about slot 3 a min. bramblecoat, lasts a long long time and their are 2 items i know of that have this effect. I got my tunic from servator of luclin (very 1 groupable with slower) in griegs. Not sure where this (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=3590) drops, maybe if anyone knows they can post.

Yours
Brutall (http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=132256)

grobsmashprexus
04-25-2003, 07:32 AM
according to allakhzam Bloodstained Burlap Cloak was given out in a gm event