Guide: Basic armor set upgrades

[Raaj]

Originally posted by Varaho1


For those of you asking what armor you should get next this should help you to find what you are looking for.

Note 1: I am not listing every set, just some of the more common ones people have been using at different levels.

Note 2: Someone else is going to have to make up a Guide for Lizards who cannot wear some of the plate armors.

Armor progreshion:

Newbie quests: These quests are spiffy for those of you who are just starting out in EQ. Your guild trainers will give you information on how to do them if your race has them. I wish I had them back in the day when I started out.

Crafted/Crusty: Almost the same thing. Some slots of crusty being better ( ie. greaves ) and some crafted being better( ie. breastplate ). Crafted armor is the result of Old World quest and nowadays it is cheaper to buy the armor than quest for it. Crusty or Crustacean Shell is dropped off of Othmirs in Cobalt scar, and again you are probably going to end up buying it from farmers.

Barbed ringmail: This armor comes from Velketor's Labyrinth. You again will more likely buy this armor rather than win it nowadays. Most notable is the Breastplate which is a nice step up from crafted/crusty and also lizard useable.

Hate Armor: This armor comes from the Plane of Hate ( duh )off of the mummy looking monks named A Kiraikuei. There is a set for Lizards ( Legionnaire Scale ) and a Set for normal warriors ( Indicolite ) available here. This Armor is no-drop on most servers so you will have to kill for it ( finally, thank god some action ) There is a quest in the plane of knowledge that allows you to turn in this armor for gems and a bit of EXP when you grow out of it, well for the normal set at least.

Cobalt/Berserker's/Champions:The next step has three options ( well two for Lizards ).

Cobalt armorcomes from the Dungeons of Kunark but can be acquired from the bazaar as well. The most notable thing about this armor is the higher AC ( than the other two sets at this level anyway ) and the right click effects. The Breastplate can heal you and the Greaves can turn people invisible. The bracer can shrink people the boots give you more strength. The helm grants you Infravision. The arms shield you, and finally the gloves have a crappy buff that I used the scare newbies with. Lizards cannot use this armor

Champion’s armor is the lowest level of the Velious quest armors. Think Cobalt with less ac and no clicks ( well all but the breastplate) but much better stats. To get Champs or thurg quest gear, you need to have good faction with The coldain dwarves, kill in Kael for corroded plate armor, and find three gems from the frozen lands. This armor is No-Drop and but can be multi-quested.

Berserker's Armor comes from the Plane of Growth. Has similar stats to Champions armor but no gems necessary. one Note about PoG, killing in PoG makes Elves hate you. Not too much of a problem nowadays however. This armor is No-drop and is not a quest so the only way to get it is to piss off Tunare.

Next step and the Last one I will cover for now: Myrmidon/Warlord/Tradeskill

Myrmidonarmor is the result of the Dragon quests in Velious. Much hp on this set of armor to gain this armor you need to kill in the Halls of Testing and return three gems along with unadorned plate to Skyshrine. This armor is Multi-questable but you need ally faction before you can think about getting this armor.

Warlord armor is the result of the Giant quests in Velious. This armor is nice for people who dream about AC all night long. To get this armor you need to kill in the ToV. and turn in the ancient tarnished armor with three gems in Kael. This armor is Multi-questable but you need ally faction.

Trade skill armor is where things get a bit touchy. Stats on these armor sets are comparable to the other sets at this level and in some instances better than the other two. For the full lowdown on these armors look at EQ Traders under the Cultural and Cazic Thule recipes.

Well that is it for now. Hope you have found something useful from all of this.

PS: I recall an armor comparison chart that was made and for some reason I want to say Radbarsh made it. If anyone still has the link it would be a help.

http://members.cox.net/radhazzone/rad_armor.htm

[Faeya]

The stats shown on that linked chart are wrong for Moktor--for the most part it was just leaving off the wisdom on the items, but some of the other stats are wrong also. Here are the correct stats:

Moktor Boots +21 AC +10 Sta +2 Wis +15 vsMg +15 vsFire
Moktor Bracer +13 AC +4 Str +4 Dex +1 Wis +4 vsCold
Moktor Breastplate +36 AC +15 Str +15 Sta +6 Wis +15 HP
Moktor Gauntlets +17 AC +5 Str +5 Dex +1 Wis +5 vsDis
Moktor Greaves +21 AC +10 Str +10 Sta +6 Wis +15 HP
Moktor Helm +21 AC +5 Sta +4 Wis +8 vsFire +10 HP
Moktor Vambraces +21 AC +5 Str +5 Dex +3 Wis +10 HP

[Detheb Blade]

Bracer is 21ac :D

[Grayhelm]

Update: I have started keeping this list up-to-date here - http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/eq/eq-warrior-armour.php - for a couple of reasons. I'll leave this post here, but any updates will be on the linked webpage.

28/2/07 update.
I've added all the LDoN sets and the other OoW tradeskill armour (master, journeyman, expert) to the list. One set of TBS armour is in, and I'm working on the others.


Original post follows

This post is a list of 'warrior armour sets' (some are exclusive to warriors, some are all plate classes, and some are race specific). It doesn't include everything, too much blue diamond cultural for that, but it tries to give a good general list of stuff.

Some notes at the bottom.

ac = armour class
hp = hitpoints
atk = attack
rgn = hp regen
ds = damage shield
sh = shielding
avo = avoidance
ce = combat effects
ssh = spell shielding
dsh = dot shielding
str = strikethrough
acc = accuracy
hst = haste
sr = stun resist


ac hp atk rgn ds sh avo ce ssh dsh str acc hst sr
Axebringer (Newbie armour, dwarven)
67 35 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Crafted
106 25 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Indicolite
155 50 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Champion's / Bladesman's
216 220 - - - - - - - - - - - -
+Invigorate

Cobalt
220 50 - - - - - - - - - - - -
+Invigorate, Invisibility, Shrink, Lesser Shielding
+Serpent Sight, Reckless Strength, Strength of the Kunzar

Scale Born (base)
238 330 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Brellium Platemail
246 255 - - - - - - - - - - - -

ac hp atk rgn ds sh avo ce ssh dsh str acc hst sr

Fierce Heraldic
246 500 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Myrmidon
250 335 - - - - - - - - - - - -
+Invigorate

Consecrated (base)
255 590 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Magnetic
257 560 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Warlord
279 310 - - - - - - - - - - - -
+Invigorate

Kizrak
298 530 - 3 - - - - - - - - - -
+Shield of the Arcane, Health, Plainsight, Miraculous Visions

Charged Magnetic
309 710 - - - - - - - - - - - -

ac hp atk rgn ds sh avo ce ssh dsh str acc hst sr

First Order (base)
347 910 - - - - - - - - - - - -

First Order (auged)
347 1200 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Armsmaster
395 975 85 13 4 - - - - - - - - -
+Guardian's Boon, Plainsight, Improved Parry 1

Blessed Champion
442 1135 95 17 4 2 - 5 2 2 - - 40 -
+Bazu Bellow, Improved Dodge 1, Plainsight, Improved Parry 1

Grandmaster's Stormguard (base, agnostic)
452 1040 90 12 8 - - - - - - - - -

Grandmaster's Stormguard (auged, agnostic)
452 1330 90 12 8 - - - - - - - - -

Marred
482 1795 - - - - - - - - - - - -

Battle-Marred
482 1795 125 15 15 7 20 11 3 3 5 7 40 -
+Cleave III, Truesight, Improved Dodge III

ac hp atk rgn ds sh avo ce ssh dsh str acc hst sr

Raex
492 1335 150 12 - 3 - - - - - - - -
+Echo of Anger, 8% Riposte, Faerune

Eternity
524 1920 120 24 7 5 10 25 6 6 - - 45 -
+Bazu Bellow, Improved Dodge III, Faerune
+Add +10 bash dmg, Improved Parry III

Vadd's
537 1885 135 16 - 14 5 - 13 3 8 8 - -
+Cleave II, Echo of Anger

Fallen Saint (1 x bracer)
623 2455 175 31 7 25 35 - 11 5 7 60 45 -
+Form of Defense IV, Improved Parry IV

Gladiator's
666 2560 245 29 - 15 20 20 12 15 10 - 45 -
+Guardian's Bravery, Deafening Strike, 8% Parry, Ferocity V

ac hp atk rgn ds sh avo ce ssh dsh str acc hst sr

Grandmaster's Dreadguard (Bazu Seal)
692 2480 210 20 8 12 16 - 4 16 - 36 - 16
+Cleave V, Improved Parry III, Sharpshooting V, Ferocity V
+Improved Block III, Improved Dodge III

Warfire
754 3705

Atathus' Warfire
754 3705 290 25 20 18 35 35 12 12 10 35 45 10
+Bloodfire of Atathus, Rage of the Crystalwing, Ferocity VII
+Improved Dodge V, Add +20 Bash dmg, Faerune

Grandmaster's Dreadguard (Last Blood)
812 2720 240 28 16 12 18 - 4 16 - 42 - 16
+Cleave V, Improved Parry III, Sharpshooting V, Ferocity V
+Improved Block III, Improved Dodge III

1. First Order is auged (where listed) with the best pure type 9 HP augs from DoN only
2. GM Armour is auged with the GM augs even in the base entry, the auged entry has those plus type 9/12 HP augs from DoN.
3. I think the Fierce Heraldic and the Brellium Platemail are the best examples of Blue Diamond Cultural, it's not worth listing them all. For example, the Dark Elf "Dark Prince Regent" armour appears to have the same stats as Brellium Platemail.
4. Fallen Spirit Bracers are Lore, so only one included in the set.
5. GM (Bazu Seal) and GM (Last Blood) are indicative only, based on the information and choices in the posts here (http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/showpost.php?p=233279&postcount=19) and here (http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/showpost.php?p=233282&postcount=20)
6. Warfire and Atathus' Warfire have been updated to include legs and chest.

[Grayhelm]

Let me know if there are any errors, it's late and my spreadsheet-fu is weak. Not all the amour sets are there yet, these are the ones I'd already collected the information for.

[Kudedor]

The indicolite gaunts have 50 hps.

I remember staying in Hate for 12+ hour stretches multiple days in a row looking for that armor. Damn.

[Kinadam]

I know you prephased the post by saying not all armor sets are included, I just want to make sure you remember the eternity (ToB) set to that. It's on par with Vadd's and represents a bypass to GoD upgrades. My guild chose to skip GoD, so most of my armor is actually ToB armor.

[Grayhelm]

Added the fallen saint armour, even though it's not warrior specific.

Not all of the Warfire stuff is on Lucy yet, I'll add it when it is. If someone wants to let me know what an 'average warrior targetted' set of GM Armour + Last Blood looks like, I can add that.

[Grayhelm]

I found it interesting that none of our armour sets gave any stun resistance btw.

[Baadan]

Nice work Gray, could you add the "ac/hp/atk" row between every 5 or so armor sets? That way you can tell what the 11 is for on the Battle-Marred row without having to scroll up and count over then scroll down and count back yada yada

[Kinadam]

The Eternity set also has Improved pary III (arms), improved dodge III ( legs), and iirc faerune (helm).

[daw4888]

helm is truesight, not faerune

[Battleblade]

Whoops, my bad. I posted the Atathus's Boots but they've shown up on Lucy.

[Cuclain MacLlir]

You forgot Crafted!

It might be interesting, in the name of completeness, to add a set of plate from Time (using 1 raex bracer because quarm bracer is lore and raex guants because time gaunts aren't an upgrade over EP guants), or Tacvi (using 1 Vadd's bracer because tacvi bracer is lore). Not really armor sets in the sense that they all have the same name, but definately steps in progression.

[Grayhelm]

You forgot Crafted!

It might be interesting, in the name of completeness, to add a set of plate from Time (using 1 raex bracer because quarm bracer is lore and raex guants because time gaunts aren't an upgrade over EP guants), or Tacvi (using 1 Vadd's bracer because tacvi bracer is lore). Not really armor sets in the sense that they all have the same name, but definately steps in progression.

Can you list the specific items other than Raex you'd want in the set, and likewise for Tacvi, I don't (yet) raid in either of those locations.

[Grayhelm]

The Eternity set also has Improved pary III (arms), improved dodge III ( legs), and iirc faerune (helm).

Blurgh it was late, my bad :)

[Grayhelm]

helm is truesight, not faerune

Helm of Eternity

[Yoda]

You forgot Crafted!

It might be interesting, in the name of completeness, to add a set of plate from Time (using 1 raex bracer because quarm bracer is lore and raex guants because time gaunts aren't an upgrade over EP guants), or Tacvi (using 1 Vadd's bracer because tacvi bracer is lore). Not really armor sets in the sense that they all have the same name, but definately steps in progression.
I don't think it would be good to exanche armor set piece with other loot of the same progression level because it would make it too much confusing. Actually the only case where I would make a digress is for Fallen Saint the bracer is lore, my advise is to use the glad bracer as second armor piece because stats are almost identical.


moreover, Grayhelm, can you add the requiered level after the name of the armors ?

on a side note, I would like to add caps on top of that list... someting along that line:
ac = armour class (no cap)
hp = hitpoints (no cap)
atk = attack (caps at 250 -> 350 with AA)
rgn = hp regen (caps at 35 -> ? with AA)
ds = damage shield (caps at 30) is it correct btw ?
sh = shielding (caps at 35%)
avo = avoidance (caps at 100)
ce = combat effects (caps at 100)
ssh = spell shielding (caps at 35%)
dsh = dot shielding (caps at 35%)
str = strikethrough (caps at 35%)
acc = accuracy (caps at 150)
hst = haste (caps at 100%)

so that a global level of mods can be estimated, for exemple:
Vadd's: 21.86% (without AA) -> 19.30% (with AA) avg mod level +1x level 2 focus
Eternity: 22.35% (without AA) -> 19.45% (with AA) avg mod level +2x level 3 focus
Gladiator's: 36.94% (without AA) -> 32.30% (with AA) avg mod level +1x level 5 focus +8% overfocus
Fallen Saint: 41.06% (without AA) -> 36.67% (with AA) avg mod level +1x level 4 focus

with maybe the global level focus of the same progression ? but that would make it too hard to fit in the table.

[Grayhelm]

Hmm Fallen Saint bracer is lore? Ok, that changes things, I didn't notice that. Puts it back under Gladiator''s then as a 'set'. I'll update that when I'm at home later.

I'm not going to add the cap details because a) they change, b) they vary based on level and c) if people want to know they can look them up.

I'm just interested in listing armour sets for comparison.

[Frael]

I'd be very interested in seeing bazu and last blood auged GM armor (including the GM symbol augs of course) added to the sets. They are the direct alternatives to Gladiator's and Fallen saint armor, and in some ways more attractive, being easier to obtain and versatile (pick and mix effects)

I use bazu auged armor heavily over gladiator's, the only real downside is it isn't cheap.

[Grayhelm]

If you list the armour and the stats, I'll include it.

I was thinking of including Magnet, Charged Magnet as well.

[Frael]

Grandmaster's Dreadguard Helm (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: HEAD
AC: 89
Focus Effect: Druzzil's Range
STR: +24 DEX: +16 STA: +23 CHA: +16 Wis: +23 INT: +23 AGI: +19 HP: +315 MANA: +315 Endurance: +315 SV FIRE: +27 SV DISEASE: +19 SV COLD: +26 SV MAGIC: +18 SV POISON: +18
Regeneration: +4
Mana Regeneration: +1
Damage Shield: 2
Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +8 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 3.6 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Helm Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Extension


Grandmaster's Dreadguard Armband (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 62
Effect: Sharpshooting V
STR: +21 DEX: +14 STA: +20 CHA: +14 Wis: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +17 HP: +295 MANA: +295 Endurance: +295 SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +18 SV COLD: +24 SV MAGIC: +17 SV POISON: +17
Attack: +35
Regeneration: +1
Mana Regeneration: +1
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Wrist Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Sharpshooting


Grandmaster's Dreadguard Armband (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 62
Focus Effect: Fury of Solusek
STR: +21 DEX: +14 STA: +20 CHA: +14 Wis: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +17 HP: +295 MANA: +295 Endurance: +295 SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +18 SV COLD: +24 SV MAGIC: +17 SV POISON: +17
Attack: +15
Regeneration: +1
Mana Regeneration: +2
Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +8 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Wrist Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Spells






Grandmaster's Dreadguard Sleeves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: ARMS
AC: 89
Effect: Improved Dodge III
STR: +24 DEX: +16 STA: +23 CHA: +16 Wis: +23 INT: +23 AGI: +19 HP: +315 MANA: +315 Endurance: +315 SV FIRE: +27 SV DISEASE: +19 SV COLD: +26 SV MAGIC: +18 SV POISON: +18
Attack: +20
Regeneration: +4
Damage Shield: 2
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.6 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Sleeve Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Dodge



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Gloves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: HANDS
AC: 75
Effect: Ferocity V
STR: +24 DEX: +16 STA: +23 CHA: +16 Wis: +23 INT: +23 AGI: +19 HP: +315 MANA: +315 Endurance: +315 SV FIRE: +27 SV DISEASE: +19 SV COLD: +26 SV MAGIC: +18 SV POISON: +18
Attack: +50
Regeneration: +4
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Glove Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Ferocity



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Cuirass (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 129
Effect: Cleave V
STR: +24 DEX: +17 STA: +23 CHA: +17 Wis: +23 INT: +23 AGI: +20 HP: +325 MANA: +325 Endurance: +325 SV FIRE: +28 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +19 SV POISON: +19
Attack: +20
Regeneration: +1
Mana Regeneration: +2
Damage Shield: 2
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 5.1 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Chest Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Cleaving



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Greaves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: LEGS
AC: 111
Effect: Improved Parry III
STR: +24 DEX: +17 STA: +23 CHA: +17 Wis: +23 INT: +23 AGI: +20 HP: +325 MANA: +325 Endurance: +325 SV FIRE: +28 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +19 SV POISON: +19
Attack: +20
Regeneration: +1
Mana Regeneration: +2
Damage Shield: 2
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 5.1 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Legging Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Parry


Grandmaster's Dreadguard Boots (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: FEET
AC: 75
Effect: Improved Block III
STR: +21 DEX: +14 STA: +20 CHA: +14 Wis: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +17 HP: +295 MANA: +295 Endurance: +295 SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +18 SV COLD: +24 SV MAGIC: +17 SV POISON: +17
Attack: +50
Regeneration: +4
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +6 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 4.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Boot Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Bazu Seal of Block



The overall modifiers can be customized by different combinations of bazu augs. For example, Melee orientated bazu augs have shielding and accuracy, where the caster orientated augs have avoidance and spell shielding.

[Frael]

Grandmaster's Dreadguard Helm (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: HEAD
AC: 104
Focus Effect: Druzzil's Range
STR: +26 DEX: +18 STA: +25 CHA: +18 Wis: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +21 HP: +345 MANA: +345 Endurance: +345 SV FIRE: +30 SV DISEASE: +22 SV COLD: +29 SV MAGIC: +21 SV POISON: +21
Regeneration: +5
Mana Regeneration: +1
Damage Shield: 3
Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +9 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 3.6 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Helm Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Oracle



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Armband (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 77
Effect: Sharpshooting V
STR: +23 DEX: +16 STA: +22 CHA: +16 Wis: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +19 HP: +325 MANA: +325 Endurance: +325 SV FIRE: +28 SV DISEASE: +21 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Attack: +40
Regeneration: +2
Mana Regeneration: +1
Damage Shield: 1
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Wrist Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Archer


Grandmaster's Dreadguard Sleeves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: ARMS
AC: 104
Effect: Improved Dodge III
STR: +26 DEX: +18 STA: +25 CHA: +18 Wis: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +21 HP: +345 MANA: +345 Endurance: +345 SV FIRE: +30 SV DISEASE: +22 SV COLD: +29 SV MAGIC: +21 SV POISON: +21
Attack: +25
Regeneration: +5
Damage Shield: 3
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.6 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Sleeve Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Cutpurse



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Gloves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: HANDS
AC: 90
Effect: Ferocity V
STR: +26 DEX: +18 STA: +25 CHA: +18 Wis: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +21 HP: +345 MANA: +345 Endurance: +345 SV FIRE: +30 SV DISEASE: +22 SV COLD: +29 SV MAGIC: +21 SV POISON: +21
Attack: +55
Regeneration: +5
Damage Shield: 1
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Glove Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Berserker



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Armband (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 77
Focus Effect: Fury of Solusek
STR: +23 DEX: +16 STA: +22 CHA: +16 Wis: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +19 HP: +325 MANA: +325 Endurance: +325 SV FIRE: +28 SV DISEASE: +21 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Attack: +15
Regeneration: +2
Mana Regeneration: +2
Damage Shield: 1
Spell Shield: +2% Avoidance: +9 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 2.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Wrist Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Magus



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Cuirass (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 144
Effect: Cleave V
STR: +26 DEX: +19 STA: +25 CHA: +19 Wis: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +22 HP: +355 MANA: +355 Endurance: +355 SV FIRE: +31 SV DISEASE: +23 SV COLD: +30 SV MAGIC: +22 SV POISON: +22
Attack: +25
Regeneration: +2
Mana Regeneration: +2
Damage Shield: 3
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 5.1 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Chest Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Warchief




Grandmaster's Dreadguard Greaves (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: LEGS
AC: 126
Effect: Improved Parry III
STR: +26 DEX: +19 STA: +25 CHA: +19 Wis: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +22 HP: +355 MANA: +355 Endurance: +355 SV FIRE: +31 SV DISEASE: +23 SV COLD: +30 SV MAGIC: +22 SV POISON: +22
Attack: +25
Regeneration: +2
Mana Regeneration: +2
Damage Shield: 3
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 5.1 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Legging Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Duelist



Grandmaster's Dreadguard Boots (Augmented)
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE ATTUNEABLE
Slot: FEET
AC: 90
Effect: Improved Block III
STR: +23 DEX: +16 STA: +22 CHA: +16 Wis: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +19 HP: +325 MANA: +325 Endurance: +325 SV FIRE: +28 SV DISEASE: +21 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Attack: +55
Regeneration: +5
Damage Shield: 1
Shielding: +2% Accuracy: +7 Stun Resist: +2%
DoT Shielding: +2%
Recommended level of 69
Required level of 70
WT: 4.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR SHD
Race: DEF
slot 1, type 7: empty
slot 2, type 11: Grandmaster's Boot Symbol of the Skeptic
slot 3, type 12: Last Blood of the Foot Soldier

[Detheb Ultimaweapon]

Gray, for fallen saint list, you may want to add either DK or Razorthorn(Prefered) bracer into that set, since the stats are literally almost identical to Mayong.

Like, Razorthorn has maybe 5 more hp

[Detheb Ultimaweapon]

Wristplates of Burning Rage
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 65
STR: +25 DEX: +25 STA: +30 WIS: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +20 HP: +365 MANA: +365 ENDUR: +365
SV FIRE: +20 SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Spell Shield: +5% Attack: +25 Regeneration: +4 Mana Regeneration: +2
Required level of 70.
Effect: Ferocity VI (Worn)
Focus: Vampiric Health
WT: 4.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

Compared to

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WRIST
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 63
STR: +25 DEX: +20 STA: +25 WIS: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +25 HP: +365 MANA: +365 ENDUR: +365
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +25 SV POISON: +20
Shielding: +5% Attack: +20 Regeneration: +3 Mana Regeneration: +2
Required level of 70.
Effect: Form of Defense IV (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 1.5) at Level 70
WT: 4.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

and mobs Burning comes from are easier than some demi encounters, so, I would say is good to put in~

[Detheb Ultimaweapon]

Here goes a decent Time set(With Raex BP, and 1 Raex Bracer)

Greaves of Furious Might
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: LEGS
AC: 69
STR: +30 STA: +20 CHA: +10 WIS: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +20 HP: +210 MANA: +175 ENDUR: +175
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Shielding: +4% Attack: +20 Regeneration: +2
Required level of 65.
WT: 12.0 Size: TINY
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8


Gloves of Airy Mists
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: HANDS
AC: 45
STR: +15 STA: +10 CHA: +15 WIS: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +18 HP: +195 MANA: +175 ENDUR: +175
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Strikethrough: +10% Attack: +30 Regeneration: +3
Required level of 65.
WT: 1.0 Size: TINY
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG SHM BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8


Earthen Bracer of Fortitude
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WRIST
Stringed Instrument
AC: 50
STR: +15 DEX: +20 CHA: +15 WIS: +18 INT: +18 AGI: +20 HP: +210 MANA: +200 ENDUR: +200
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Shielding: +2% Stun Resist: +4% Regeneration: +5
Required level of 65.
Focus: Quickening of Druzzil
WT: 4.5 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8


Raex's Bracer of Destruction
MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WRIST
AC: 46
STR: +15 DEX: +15 STA: +12 AGI: +13 HP: +145 ENDUR: +130
SV DISEASE: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Attack: +15
Required level of 65.
WT: 4.0 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR
Race: ALL except DRK
Slot 1, Type 7


Raex's Chestplate of Destruction
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 100
Skill Mod: Riposte +8%
STR: +30 DEX: +25 STA: +30 AGI: +25 HP: +250 ENDUR: +175
SV FIRE: +20 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Shielding: +3%
Required level of 65.
Effect: Echo of Anger (Worn)
WT: 20.0 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8


Helm of Flowing Time
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: HEAD
AC: 57
STR: +20 STA: +20 CHA: +8 WIS: +18 INT: +18 AGI: +18 HP: +185 MANA: +160 ENDUR: +160
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Attack: +20 Haste: +40%
Required level of 65.
WT: 5.0 Size: TINY
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

Armguards of the Brute
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: ARMS
AC: 59
STR: +15 DEX: +15 STA: +10 CHA: +20 WIS: +20 INT: +20 HP: +180 MANA: +165 ENDUR: +165
SV DISEASE: +35 SV MAGIC: +35
Spell Shield: +4%
Required level of 65.
Effect: Faerune (Worn)
WT: 3.2 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

Boots of Despair
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: FEET
AC: 55
Skill Mod: Taunt +10%
STR: +25 CHA: +20 WIS: +20 INT: +20 AGI: +20 HP: +190 MANA: +180 ENDUR: +180
SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +25
Stun Resist: +5% Attack: +25
Required level of 65.
WT: 4.0 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

[Grayhelm]

The overall modifiers can be customized by different combinations of bazu augs. For example, Melee orientated bazu augs have shielding and accuracy, where the caster orientated augs have avoidance and spell shielding.

Each seal is lore, so can only have one? If people agree that this list represents 'generic' or 'best of breed' Bazu Seal +GM then I'll include it.

Same question for Last Blood.

[Grayhelm]

Detheb, I understand the intent, but I was keen to keep this to sets of armour, rather than sets of amour from roughly the same progression but different pieces.

[Frael]

Maybe I should clarify. The bazu/last blood augs come in 2 flavors, those with caster foci and those with melee effects. The augs with the caster foci additionally have spell shielding and avoidance, while the melee orientated augs have shielding and accuracy.

The armor set I posted is melee orientated, with all the melee effects (cleave, ferocity, dodge, parry, sharpshooting, block). I added 2 caster augs to complete the set for visible armor, although the sharpshooting and block are interchangable also, doing little and nothing for warriors. Additionally, anyone with a similar or better effect on a different item, might opt for the caster aug. It all comes down to whether an individual prefers more spell shielding and avoidance over shielding and accuracy.

On the whole though, I believe the armor sets I posted would be the 'generic' bazu and last blood auged GM armor for melee, and while foci and effects be aug dependent, the ac, hp, stats and resists remain identical.

[Grayhelm]

Ok thanks Frael, I'll whack them in.

[Jugerrnaut]

Nice work grey!

[Grayhelm]

Thanks Jugerrnaut.

Ok, added the Bazu / Last Blood stuff. The Last Blood stuff knocks socks off anything before it AC wise. I'll go see how much of the TSS stuff is on Lucy.

Can someone raiding the content confirm if there's two tiers of armour, and if they're both viable, of if there's really only one viable option (i.e. Marred vs. Battle-Marred for the single group stuff).

Edit: I guess I found it, Warfire is tier3 and Atathus`s Warfire tier4? Without the mods, I suspect most people will say that the tier3 is non-viable, but I'll list it for completeness.

[Frostpaw]

I doubt anyone has much interest in this anymore, but could add the Twilight Sea quest armor. The warrior set is called Soldier's.

[Grayhelm]

Thanks, at least it'll give us a laugh about how bad it is.

[Yoda]

well I won't put it in the library because i'm not quite sure you will be able to edit your post anymore, but this thread worth to be stickied.

[Grayhelm]

Anyone seen the Warfire chest / legs yet?

[Caerberus]

I doubt anyone has much interest in this anymore, but could add the Twilight Sea quest armor. The warrior set is called Soldier's.

LOL, I don't think anyone of any class was ever interested in that set of armor.

Great list Grey. thanks for the hard work.

[Valnir Lanys]

For warriors, IB III from last blood is useless right? So wouldn't it be better to make an aug with caster focii and avoidance. Just a thought.

Otherwise, this table is truly amazing.

[Grayhelm]

Anyone got an EQPlayers account and can see if the Warfire chest / legs has turned up on anyone?

[Lluianae]

They haven't been found yet, Momentum nabbed Lethar and got Cleric legs (ewwwwwwwww, no thanks) and Enc BP. TSS raid armor is rather depressing, and knowing the cleric bp focus and click by scanning the spdat, and looking at generic mods... guess I stick to CoA bp for yet another expansion unless Prathun sees sense and changes the focus to SLrk3 25% mp. Warrior click seems to be a 3k self heal :x that or I misread, and it is +3000 additional hp. I'll check again later.

[Grayhelm]

Yeh, in some respects it's tough on the guilds beating the leading edge, on the other hand, it's another option for guilds that mix and match between all the expansion end-zones.

Thanks for the update on the warrior chest / legs, as soon as anyone see's one drop, just post and I'll add it in.

[Lluianae]

Triality killed Beltron and got Warrior legs, so far only the normal legs have been made, and not the one with mods / effectst etc.

[Grayhelm]

At least they'll provide the AC / HP - thanks for the head's up.

[Lluianae]

Atathus`s Warfire Greaves
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: LEGS
AC: 112
STR: +35 DEX: +30 STA: +30 CHA: +25 AGI: +20 HP: +475 ENDUR: +445
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +25 SV POISON: +25
Combat Effects: +10 Shielding: +4% Avoidance: +10 Accuracy: +15 Strikethrough: +5% Attack: +40 Regeneration: +4
Required level of 75.
Effect: Improved Dodge V (Worn) at Level 75
WT: 10.0 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8

[Mbad]

Thanks board woman. Guess ID5 isnt the worst thing they could stick on em.

[Openacan Owoopazz]

I ask that you add as well the amount and type of augment slots I have been looking for a few armor pieces that allow me to add more face neck shoulders back and waist augs for bloodflow stones and i thank you very much for putting the time and effort into putting this list together


Openacan Owoopazz Level 51 Warrior The Tribunal

[Grayhelm]

I'll add the changes that have happened over the last patch and the legs n' stuff from the tss armour.

The table is already pretty big, I'll not be adding anything about aug slots I'm afraid.

[Openacan Owoopazz]

Greyhelm have you looked in the magelo db for the armour sets pictures and stats there?

I noticed the highlevel stuff listed and figured it might help you.

[Meph]

Warfire BP has a 3k heal clicky with 15 min recast time on it. Was linked on AB yesterday.

[Grayhelm]

thanks, i'm slacking, i'll update the list asap

[Grayhelm]

Added the Warfire updates. Moves them to the top of the AC tree except for the Bazu GM stuff.

[Yoda]

are you sure of your counts on the effects ? because I think it's shamefull that we get a big decrease in shielding while FS had one piece less, and on top of that we get from the whole set as much avoidance as the silk wearers from their chest piece alone.

[Grayhelm]

I can double check, it's easily possible I screwed up

[Grayhelm]

Yoda, I had got the stats wrong, I had accuracy and strikethrough too high, so I've decreased those, otherwise, they're all correct as per lucy.

[Yoda]

:(

[Brabble]

There are also DoN merchant lowbie sets that could perhaps be included. Dunno whether anyone gets them, but certainly they could consider it if they were at the level where they were otherwise in the market for blue diamond/even some magnetic.

The required 48/recommended 55 armor is called "Scale born plate" for the good side and "spine forged plate" for the darkside.

The required 58/rec 65 armor is Consecrated Plate on the good side and Death Lantern on the evil side.

All sets are standard armguards, boots, bracers X 2, gauntlets, greaves, helm, vest.

No fancy stuff, just AC and hitpoints (better stats than blue diamond, though)

Scale Born/Spine Forged: AC 238, hps 330

Consecrated/DeathLantern: AC 255, hps 590

[Grayhelm]

Ah cool, thanks.

[Smakz]

I dont have the stats offhand, but you should add the Master's Level and Expert's Level cultural stuff in too, for the tradeskillers, and lowbies that either cant afford GM, or havent reached the required levels for it.

[Grod Felblade]

If we are really digging for other options there are also the sets that were available using LDoN points from the Butcherblock and I think North Ro camps. Butcherblock stuff was ~45ish and called Death embracers if I remember correctly. Been a while on that stuff.

This may not really be an option anymore since most peeps are steering clear of the LDoNs anymore.

[Yoda]

if you are adding more and more armors to the list, I suggest you to cut the list into multiple smaller lists of 4 to 6 armor set each so that the scroll down doesn't inflate too much.

[Leonis]

Miragel and Tak had the decent-for-LDoN plate sets - compared well in some cases, close in others, to Ornate PoP gear, and it ALL had 3 slots (but they were slot 1,2,3, so limited to LDoN augs only IIRC)

IMO the Miragel pieces were a tossup with the Tak pieces for a war, and Miragel was a lot easier to beat too - almost everything in Tak ran fast or gated.

[Ranger-Tank]

Praetorian's Plate Armor Set:

AC: 509 (upon initial inspection of LUCY, the armor now has 547 AC, but I'm not ally to verify)
HPS: 2130
Avoidance: 20
Shielding: 7%


Spell Sheilding: 11%
Strikethrough: 10%
Accuracy: 20
Combat Effects: 12
DoT Shielding: 11%
Attack: 140
Regen: 27
Flowing Thought: 17
Damage Shield: 14

[Grayhelm]

I've moved this data to

http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/eq/eq-warrior-armour.php

where it's a hell of a lot easier to keep up-to-date (db backend) and easier to format. You'll be pleased to see I've added required levels, and if you hover over a number it'll remind you which stat it's for which saves having to scroll up and down all the time.

I'll add the LDoN armour sets and the TBS ones (which make me mad) as soon as possible. Keep posting updates in this thread or pointing out anything I've missed.

[SeeboSteele]

Nice setup thanks for all your hard work!

[Chewintar]

Very nice, thank you Grayhelm.

[Grayhelm]

np, just going through adding the ldon sets now.

[Catamander]

Thanks a ton, Grey!

[Grayhelm]

I think what's clear so far is that Praetorian's Energeiac Plate has changed the face of plate gear for grouping warriors. If it's possible to beat enough missions to get it (and as I understand it, it will be possible).

It's the first groupable set of warrior gear to provide more AC than raiding gear since PoP (even TSS armour didn't beat Raex's).

Praetorian's Energeiac Plate comes in ahead of Raex, Eternity and Vadd's in terms of hitpoints and armour class (actually, where does the Eternity stuff sit, could that be classed as 'groupable' by non-raiders?).


NB: Ok, LDoN and non-GM OoW armour are added. There's a tonne of TBS armours so they'll take some time.

[Yoda]

great job !

[Grayhelm]

I made some changes a guild mate of mine suggested and he also provided Chronal and Discordant seal sample sets, so they'll be in soon.

[Ranger-Tank]

Grey, might I ask you to add in the stats when using Elemental powersource? I did some calcs using Elemental & others:

569ac/2426hp (+0 end) Elemental powered (For the average war. more hp and ac)

427ac/2730hp (+600 end) Growth powered (For those HP junkies... but a stupid choice imo)

603ac/2130hp (+448 end) Stone Powered (For Pure AC junkies)

569ac/2282hp (+152 end) Earth Powered (Not necessarily needed to add this one but still a viable powersource for warrs)

I'd add the two bolded ones at least. They are the smartest choic imo for a war.

Do what you will :)

[Futumsh]

Eternity (ToB armor) is groupable for non-raiders, except for the chest/legs.

[Silthrix]

Praetorian's Energeiac Plate comes in ahead of Raex, Eternity and Vadd's in terms of hitpoints and armour class (actually, where does the Eternity stuff sit, could that be classed as 'groupable' by non-raiders?).


First off--AWESOME WORK Gray! I will be adding a link to your armor breakdown in my guild's warrior section!

Now I am still pissed about the Praetorian. IMO it should fall in the 450/1250 range or maybe even the 500/1300 range.

Can Eternity be be grouped by non raiders? IMO, no. The regen on the mobs is insane and it would have to be an incredibly talented, maxxed group to take down a TOB named. Perhaps I am wrong but I am definitely not at the level where any group that I would be in can handle the names in TOB.

[Ranger-Tank]

LOL Don't H8 Silthrix. pheer my 1337 Praetorian ARMORZ!

[Futumsh]

The ToB armor is off the trash mobs, not the nameds, except for the chest and legs. I've 1-grouped them with a relatively low dps group (war/rog/dru/pal/enc/clr, no raid weapons), without too much trouble. The nameds are another story altogether though.

[Grayhelm]

I'll think about adding a set or two of powered armour. Do we know definitely how the power sources work? My main concern is that there are *so* many variations, additionally there are going to be augs which increase the purity of armour and hence how effective power sources are.

[Ranger-Tank]

yes i know that these powersources work, i wear a full set of praetorian. I go from 10.9k to 11.3k unbuffed equiping my elemental power and my ac raises by 50ish. Which makes sense since i have the HP increase aa's. Each item gets 4ac and 37 hps. 4x8=32ac, 8x37=296hps.

[Grayhelm]

Got the full power source names?

[Silthrix]

The ToB armor is off the trash mobs, not the nameds, except for the chest and legs. I've 1-grouped them with a relatively low dps group (war/rog/dru/pal/enc/clr, no raid weapons), without too much trouble. The nameds are another story altogether though.

Aye, my point was a full set is not attainable imo without a raid or some serious end game types, which I am not.

[Catamander]

Powersource info here: http://kanon.cside.to/MT/archives/2007/02/tbs_powersource.html

Info on a couple I could see tanks using: (All stats below are for use on basic Praetorian armors, may vary if applied to other armors due to purity scaling)

Standard tanking one, imo:
Translucent Energeian Elemental Orb
AC +4
HP +37
Str +7
Sta +7
Dex +7
Agi +7
Int +7
Wis +7
Cha +7
SvP +11
SvM +11
SvD +11
SvF +11
SvC +11
Proc : Chaotic Strike II

For the true AC mongers:
Translucent Energeian Stone Orb
AC +7
End +56
Str +9
Sta +9
Dex -9
Agi -9
SvCo -4
Proc : Guard II

For knights maybe?:
Translucent Energeian Earth Orb
AC +4
HP +19
Mana +19
End +19
Str +11
Sta +11
Dex -11
Agi -11
Cha +4
SvD +19
Proc : Root

[Yoda]

too bad the stone orb has only a guard II proc... guard proc being like a vie but for melee only it should have the same hate as vie proc which is the same as rune... this put the guard IV proc (the best of the line) just under a rune III proc (at the level of an anger 2 proc actually) ...
unfortunately it is only the 2nd level of the line :(
WTB rune procs on orbs

[Ranger-Tank]

so guard does have an innate hate value? IE. Guard 4 proc is like anger2? or are you just wishing Yoda? If so, i'll scrap my CS4 aug in offhand and get Guard 4 to make my tanking life easier.

[Yoda]

guard proc are rune type proc thus as double hate than the HP saved. Guard2 as thus 200 hate and guard4 400 hate.

[Catamander]

Guard and Rune are also hate-list based hate generation, like heals -- not target-based hate generation. This means that all mobs that currently have you on their active hate lists and are in chase range will add the hate of the guard/rune proc, not just your target. Back in the old days of LDoN clearings, the SEWS from PoEarth was an excellent weapon for clearing dungeons and grouping for exactly this reason. Not ideal for raid-boss tanking, but fantastic at mass aggro generation.

[Yoda]

one question through, I may remember that every benefit spell has a chance to draw no aggro at all... do you think it's possible with runes and/or procs

[Grayhelm]

I think it was the other way around - mobs have a chance to spot beneficial spells, or to not notice them. Stupid mobs miss beneficial spells more often than clever mobs. This results in giants for example, not noticing healers as much as vampires. People noticed sometimes in Kael that just healing the tank didn't get you any faction - because the mobs didn't even notice the heals.

[Yoda]

precisely, hence my question. but then, if it's IA-based then probably that the distance to the mob is important, so I guess that a tank with heal proc or rune proc wouldn't have his procs unnoticed sometime.

[Catamander]

Yes, I remember there being some dev discussion on this issue but only in rather vague (to my mind) terms and never any kinds of testing or parses to play with it. My SEWS has been banked for a long time, but my main targets when I did use it were LDoN mobs, most of which rank as the intelligent types. Especially the eleventy billion NRo missions I did with all those infernal casters. Anyway, that's just to say that my experience with the good hate-list aggro from SEWS proc was probably gained in an optimal environment for that type of proc. You are probably right about the AI producing wacky results in less optimal environments.

[Grayhelm]

Started adding the TBS Armours and changing how a few things work - more updates coming.

[Silthrix]

LOL Don't H8 Silthrix. pheer my 1337 Praetorian ARMORZ!

BAH! I honestly cannot see myself doing stupid missions back to back for the limited extra stuff that Praetorean brings... Hoping to be able to pick up some Anguish armor drops soon anyway, and for the money, I'd much rather win a drop off a bad ass mob than deliver tons of mail or whatever for my pieces :D

[Kinadam]

TBS missions imo are the best xp in the game. I always stack my groups w/ dps and do things like KfP and yield 5 AA's with 3 minutes left on LoD by the time I'm done. If LoD ain't up I'll hit up something like snakes are hiding something for some challenging xp w/ greater orux reward. Grinding in TSS seems to take twice as long as it does in TBS, so imo orux just comes naturally with the great xp. Of course if you grind boring solo tasks for faction you might have a different view.

[Erlian]

Thanks for the great work Grayhelm!!
Glad to see Vadd's is still up there in the top ten :)

/Erlian

[Varalla]

I rolled my eyes at first, but there are some challenging TBS missions which have me on the edge of my seat.
I was worried it would be a dull boring grind. But there should be a mission for any taste. *Hates hide and seek, LOVES choose your own nerf chests*

Buying power souces is annoying however. I buy in bulk and stuff them in bank.

[Grayhelm]

I still haven't managed to build enough enthusiasm to go and get Orum to get the armour. Got two TSS power sources (lame lame same name game) and upgraded my TSS gloves and helm last night, which was a nice boost in mod2's. I've done one Katta mission (on my wizard), and I'm sure the rest of our group will gravitate towards them at some point.

To be honest, I was having too much fun doing the 135hp / 15ac hand aug quest (finally complete), and we still need to spend some time doing that for a few more guildies.

[Catamander]

I churned my warrior to ally on a mix of group missions and Library Heist (pre-nerf of course). That went relatively quickly once I started using my wizard and the campfire to bounce the warrior around Katta doing the heist mission. Since the nerf I have been doing the slow group mission churn for the rest of our 6 toons, mostly 6-boxing missions. My wife has joined me for a few with us each 3-boxing, but mostly it's just me and I am doing Thalassius missions for about 40-50 orux a pop and about an hour to 90 minutes of actual playing time per completion (elapsed time is longer as I afk quite a bit). In true groups I pick up orux and faction a good deal faster, but when factioning 5 toons its just faster to box them all together slowly than run them in real groups individually or even in pairs. Buffing the tank up with our box crew to 17k / 3200 the Thalassius missions are trivial. I rarely cast more than a heal over time. Perfect for casual 6-boxing while doing chores or watching TV.

At 1200 orux those who had done no solo missions broke into Kindly (roughly 24-25 missions).

At 1700 orux those who had done no solo missions broke into Warmly (roughly 35-36 missions).

I am told that 2400 is roughly the number of orux most people have earned when they hit ally and by my projections that's about right on track for me. Some people report a little less, some report a little more.

I do not have the preorder faction mod item on any characters.

It is a slow and steady faction grind with no significant reward until the very end, but the XP is pretty good, even if boxing. I lived through the bad old days of Velious factioning just to be able to turn in raid drops. This is cake in comparison.

[Grayhelm]

I do not have the preorder faction mod item on any characters.
It is a slow and steady faction grind with no significant reward until the very end, but the XP is pretty good, even if boxing. I lived through the bad old days of Velious factioning just to be able to turn in raid drops. This is cake in comparison.

Oh I'm sure we'll do it, the reason for lack of motivation is the armour itself. I'm just so down about the whole merloc issue that I don't have any desire to 'upgrade' to the Praetorian. I expect we'll start doing those missions once everyone has the hand aug (135hp / 15ac, can't argue with that).

The faction mod is only pirate based, so you're not missing anything in terms of Katta faction with it.

Web site update : I've added required expansions to the list to make it obvious what you need to get the armour. I haven't really covered the Kunark / Velious stuff and I'm not sure what is 'required' to get the newbie armour either, but the key ones are in there from PoP onwards. The other energaeic stuff is in, although there's still some energaeic tradeskill stuff missing (because it's not all in lucy / eqitems yet). I'm debating what to do about it to be honest since there's so much of it.

http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/eq/eq-warrior-armour.php

[Silthrix]

hmm maybe I will check it out... really only need to replace BP and Gloves atm--along with shoulders. How many oruck or whatever is the BP with a powersource?

[Catamander]

hmm maybe I will check it out... really only need to replace BP and Gloves atm--along with shoulders. How many oruck or whatever is the BP with a powersource?

The BP is only 700 orum, which isn't an issue since you will likely earn a ton more than that just grinding up the faction to buy it (unless you do solo tasks instead of group missions).

Powersources are 15 iirc.

[Mendler]

Powersources are 20 orum. Catamander is right you'll have over 2K worth if you grind out group missions.