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Seraz
12-29-2004, 04:01 AM
hey guys, my guild has just started raiding Eles quite often and i'l like to know what items i should be looking out for? i appreciate it if you can help

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=957301

the stats dont seem right, but the gear im using is there to give you an idea what i'd be upgrading.. thanks

Champion Seraz Serilis

Kleth
12-29-2004, 05:16 AM
Not alot in the E planes, mainly low AC stuff cept Raex, Air shoulders and 1 or 2 other pieces, was a similar thread to this a few weeks ago, made this magelo to show a good combo of EP/OOW with augs from Riftseekers, but augs etc can be tuned to your likeing (I prefer AC)

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1152037

The Neck, Belt, Range, Ear are all from MPG single group trials, you'll be playing in MPG and RS for a while so their good goals to aim for and will do you well past EP/Time/Qvic so worth aiming for, otherwise go for All visable raex slots you can and don't bother wasting DKP on E plane legs if your guild is fast moving to time. Also switch 1 bracer for the Tipt one (Your guild will probably head to there after Time so might as well start the trials) or Earth Ring one if needing haste.

As i said that Magelo is fully augged, I doubt very much if anyone has all of them but can pick and choose and customise, it's half the fun of it being your char.

Hope it helps.

Ainorli
12-29-2004, 06:48 AM
Im guessing you probably have around 1650 ac but your magelo is wrong because your defence skill is only listed as 200 in your profile...

replace that bracer while your at it too :D

Seraz
12-29-2004, 07:34 AM
which bracer? hehe the enduring bracer of flame? aye my ac is close to 1.7k, i was hoping i'd be able to replace the EF LDoN cape soon and find a cape with good stats and a haste item... im thinking the haste ring to replace the turepta ring and some good cloak to replace EF one.. that be good? anything else that would be good for me?

Grumbam
12-29-2004, 08:19 AM
The Tipt Bracer is worth a look too

Redleaf
12-29-2004, 10:16 AM
As I posted in the last thread about this, dont spend a lot of dkp on the pants. They drop like candy in P3 of time. That being said, every piece of Raex is worth getting, but you can supplement it with other pieces. For example, get the Tipt bracer for one slot as many have suggested. If you can afford or have a HoRZ consider upgrading your helmet last..etc...

Redleaf

rikam
12-29-2004, 03:43 PM
Was me who asked a bit ago can check that post under my name or the title of post was elemental shopping list I believe. Also, my magelo alternate profile is what I have worked out to be nice mix of gear from ele/mpg/rs

Seraz
12-29-2004, 04:20 PM
actually my guild does not use DKP so spending is not a problem at all..

Eriatha Egan
12-29-2004, 11:47 PM
I dunno about the elemental legs. They do also drop in P3 of time, but I wouldn't exactly call em' THAT common. By the time his guild gets to Time anyways, chances are they WON'T be clearing it every week like the first guilds were doing. Take into consideration that it's going to take you about 6 months to gear up in the elementals and move into Time. You will probably have a lot, and I mean a lot of pantheon kills along the ways. We killed Fennin over 25 times I'd say (cause Fennin is fun and easy). If you can snag the Raex greaves, then by all means do so, cause you never really know when you're going to replace them with something better (Jointed Scale Greaves, Greaves of Furious Might, etc). Alternatives, however, are the Kuuan Infantry Greaves out of MPG. I got mine for my cleric from some named fiend along the way to the Weaponry trial. Raex greaves still blow away anything you can get with a single group though.

Uhh, he ain't tankin' RS until he gets a full set of Raex minimum prolly, so don't worry about getting the augs just yet. =P Varying inbetween 2480 and 2520ac (depending on buffs, but generally pretty consistant), the average Pyrilen does about 303dps and the average Chimera does 330ish (about 10% more than the Pyrilens). This is quite a bit more than tanking C2, which from my logs show inbetween 200 (Protectors, Soldiers) and 215dps (Guardians). The Gelidrans have about the same melee output as the Pyrilens, but since they can be druid debuffed, obviously their dps is going to be a bit less (if you bring a druid, that is). The Gelidrans just usually have a few more tricks up their sleeve like AE stuns, AE DDs, single target mezzing, and all your annoying shit that makes you never want to exp there. =P

The shoulders out of Air are total pwnage, but they are stupidly rare sometimes. It really depends on how much your guild is going to do air. When my guild was in the elementals, we had a shitton of competition, so we basically took what we could get (and yet I still never got them =P). If your guild doesn't have much competition in the elemental planes (as the guilds on my server who are elemental don't), then I'd wager you're probably gonna be sticking to PoFire. Not that farming up PoFire is a bad thing. You'll gear your guild up WAY faster farming PoFire every 3 days than anything else. Keep in mind though that an elemental guild CAN do Ikkinz1 and 2, and Ikkinz2 is where the $$$ is. Ikkinz2 is where a pretty snazzy pair of shoulders drop (Shale Shoulderpads), but because they are All/All, they're gonna have some serious competition on them. Still, despite having 15 less AC, they are a better pair of shoulers than the PoAir ones are. It just really depends on if your guild is going to do Ikkinz early or not. Honestly, I wouldn't wait. Ikkinz is not that hard.....

All other Raex slots are a go for sure. Helm, Arms, Boots, Wrists, and Gloves. Even if you're wearing a Helmet of Rallos Zek, snagging a Raex Helm is a plus 'cause you're probably going to be spending a lot of time in Water figuring out the Coirnav script. The Raex Gaunts are especially good because they're a snazzy place to put a 15ac aug out of Ferubi on. 70ac 155hp gloves are hard to beat, even in Time. I guess it just depends on if you like the no-helm look at all. =P I fuckin' hate helmet graphics.

A note on the arms though, you'll probably get most of your arm molds when you get to PoEarth-B from Warlord Gintolaken, so don't go bitchcakes on your guildmates if you don't get them from Hydrotha/Quavonis right away. =P

Last note from me, and this is from my personal experiences as an officer of an elemental guild for a long while. The elemental planes a very enjoyable part in the progression path of Everquest, but if Sony made one mistake on designing them, it's that you're going to probably be doing them for a long, long while. Expect to stay in the elementals for several months, and expect to be killing the same bosses over and over and over. Some people are going to get bored. Some people are gonna be frustrated. You're going to wrack up shitloads of loot, and I mean shitloads, but after the fourth month of doing it, it all seems bleh at that point. Just keep the faith and you'll waltz into Time. Time is so worth it it's not even funny. It's fun, challenging, exciting, and heavily rewarding. Time makes up for all the hard work you put into the elementals, and I mean that. In the meantime, help your guildmates do their epics. Epics help out immensely in the overall progression scheme in that they're BETTER than what you can get out of Time (in terms of weaponry). On top of that, most Time weapons aren't exactly common by ANY means at all. If you go into Time with epics already in hand, you're gonna have an enormous advantage already. Do em and don't bitch. Just help anyone and everyone out. You'll thank me later. =P

rikam
12-30-2004, 02:13 PM
I tank in RS some nights. 11k 2kac fully buffed it may not be very comfortable but I manage also have a cle/druid with me most the time so doesn't hurt me so bad.